1 2 3 4 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 5 NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA 6 SAN JOSE DIVISION 7 8 WITHROW NETWORKS, INC., Case No. 24-cv-03203-PCP (VKD)

9 Plaintiff, ORDER RE MAY 16, 2025 DISCOVERY 10 v. DISPUTE RE RELEVANT TIME PERIOD 11 GOOGLE, LLC, et al., Re: Dkt. No. 82 Defendants. 12

13 14 Plaintiff Withrow Networks, Inc. (“Withrow”) and defendants Google LLC and YouTube 15 LLC (“Defendants”) ask the Court to resolve their dispute regarding the relevant time period for 16 Withrow’s discovery of documents reflecting Defendants’ “design considerations” relating to 17 development of the accused instrumentalities. Dkt. No. 82. The Court heard oral argument on 18 this dispute on July 29, 2025. Dkt. Nos. 94, 99. 19 Withrow argues that Defendants should be required to produce documents responsive to 20 Withrow’s Requests for Production (“RFPs”) Nos. 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, and 14 from 2007 to the present, 21 arguing that this discovery is relevant to Withrow’s calculation of damages. Dkt. No. 82 at 1, 2-3. 22 Defendants object that there is no justification for discovery spanning an 18-year period, when the 23 relevant date for damages-related discovery is September 2020. Id. at 4-5. 24 As the parties acknowledge, Defendants began using adaptive bit rate streaming in 2009, 25 over a decade before the ’849 patent issued in September 2020. To the extent Withrow contends 26 that information concerning alternative streaming technologies is relevant to the damages analysis, 27 the relevant time frame for consideration of the Georgia-Pacific factors and the hypothetical 1 negotiation1 is the time frame around the date of first alleged infringement—i.e. September 2020. 2 LaserDynamics, Inc. v. Quanta Computer, Inc.,

(Fed. Cir. 2012) (“[T]he basic 3 question posed in a hypothetical negotiation is: if, on the eve of infringement, a willing licensor 4 and licensee had entered into an agreement instead of allowing infringement of the patent to take 5 place, what would that agreement be?”). While no per se rule bars all damages-related discovery 6 that pre-dates the date of the hypothetical negotiation, Withrow must nevertheless demonstrate 7 that the discovery it seeks is relevant to a claim or defense and proportional to the needs of the 8 case. See Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(1). With respect to damages, Withrow offers no support for its 9 suggestion that the circumstances pertinent to Defendants’ decision to use adaptive bit rate 10 streaming in 2009 are the same as or similar to the circumstances prevailing in September 2020, or 11 that there is any other reason to believe that documents reflecting Defendants’ design 12 considerations dating back to 2007 would have any bearing on the factors pertinent to a 13 hypothetical negotiation occurring in 2020, including Defendants’ available design choices at that 14 time.2 15 The Court does not mean to suggest that all documents pre-dating the hypothetical 16 negotiation are irrelevant. Rather, the Court concludes that Withrow has not shown that discovery 17 of Defendants’ documents responsive to RFPs 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, and 14, from 2007 to the present, is 18 relevant or proportional to the needs of the case. Accordingly, the Court denies Withrow’s request 19 for an order compelling this discovery. 20 /// 21 /// 22

23 1 Georgia-Pac. Corp. v. U.S. Plywood Corp.,

(S.D.N.Y. 1970), modified sub nom. Georgia-Pac. Corp. v. U.S. Plywood-Champion Papers, Inc.,

(2d Cir. 24 1971) (factors 9, 10, and 11).

25 2 During the hearing, in response to questioning from the Court, Withrow asserted that Defendants currently have no non-infringing alternatives, other than to revert back to the older, server-based 26 streaming technology they used before switching to adaptive bit rate streaming in 2009. Dkt. No. 99 at 72:20-74:14. Even crediting this argument, the Court is not persuaded that Withrow is 27 entitled to discovery of Defendants’ design considerations dating back 18 years when nothing 1 IT IS SO ORDERED. 2 || Dated: August 22, 2025 3 4 Uniaguia x □□□□ Virgitfa K. DeMarchi 5 United States Magistrate Judge 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

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