Kelley v. Kanios

U.S. District Court, District of Minnesota

Kelley v. Kanios

Trial Court Opinion

                UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT                             
                    DISTRICT OF MINNESOTA                                


Douglas A. Kelley, in his capacity as the  Case No. 18-cv-823 (SRN/SER)  
PCI Liquidating Trustee for the PCI                                      
Liquidating Trust,                                                       

          Plaintiff,                                                     

v.                                                                       
                                    MEMORANDUM ORDER AND                 
Chris M. Kanios; Chris M. Kanios 401(k)      OPINION                     
Savings  Plan;  National  City  Bank,  as                                
Custodian of the Chris M. Kanios 401(k)                                  
Savings Plan; and Steve Papadimos,                                       

          Defendants.                                                    


Elizabeth M. Forsythe, Michael E. Rowe, J. David Jackson, and Lucas J. Olson, Dorsey & 
Whitney LLP, 50 South Sixth Street, Suite 1500, Minneapolis, MN, 55402, for Plaintiff. 

Henry B. Roberts, Jr., H. Buswell Roberts, Jr. PLLC, 200 Country Club Road Southwest, 
Suite B1, Blacksburg, VA 24060, and Michael L. Gust, Anderson, Bottrell, Sanden & 
Thompson, PO Box 10247, Fargo, ND, 58106, for Defendants.                 


SUSAN RICHARD NELSON, United States District Judge                        
    This case arises out of the wreckage of local businessman Tom Petters’s infamous, 
years-long Ponzi scheme, which lasted from the mid-1990s through June 2008, and which 
left Petters’s creditors with over three billion dollars in unpaid liabilities. In this particular 
case, Plaintiff, the Liquidating Trustee for one of Petters’s now-defunct companies, Petters 
Company Inc. (“PCI”), seeks to “avoid,” or “claw back,” approximately four million 
dollars of interest payments, or “transfers,” received by Defendants Steve Papadimos and 
Chris M. Kanios during the heyday of Petters’s scheme, i.e., 1997 to 2006, on grounds that 
those interest payments (and the promissory notes underlying the payments) were made 

directly in furtherance of Petters’s fraud, and are therefore subject to “claw back” under 
the  Trustee’s  interpretation  of  the  Minnesota  Uniform  Fraudulent  Transfers  Act 
(“MUFTA”). Because the Court agreed with the Trustee’s interpretation of MUFTA during 
a November 2018 jury trial the Court conducted in a companion case to this one, see Kelley 
v. Boosalis, No. 18-cv-868 (SRN/TNL), 
2018 WL 6322631
 (D. Minn. Dec. 3, 2018), and 
because the Trustee believes there are no material facts in dispute that would warrant 

another jury trial here, the Trustee now moves for summary judgment.      
    Defendants not only oppose the motion, but argue that they, not the Trustee, are the 
parties entitled to summary judgment. This is so, Defendants argue, because the Court erred 
in the Boosalis case. And, Defendants continue, were the Court to adopt the “proper” 
interpretation of MUFTA here, the Trustee’s case would fail as a matter of law. In the 

alternative, Defendants also argue that the Court should certify the meaning of certain 
critical terms under MUFTA to the Minnesota Supreme Court, so that that Court could 
resolve what Defendants describe as “unsettled” questions of state law. Defendants further 
contend that, at the least, the Trustee’s summary judgment motion should be denied on 
grounds that a jury trial is still needed to resolve genuine disputes of material fact.  

    For the reasons explained below, the Court grants the Trustee’s summary judgment 
motion in full. Judgment will accordingly be entered for the Trustee.     
 I.   BACKGROUND                                                         
      A. Factual History1                                                
         1.  Defendants  Lend  Millions  of  Dollars  to  Petters  Company,  Inc., 
           Between 1997 and 2006, and Receive Millions of Dollars of Interest 
           in Return                                                     

    Steve  Papadimos  and  Chris  Kanios  (collectively,  “Defendants”)  are  a  married 
couple that live in the suburbs of Toledo, Ohio. Papadimos is a government attorney and 
Kanios is a physician. (See Pl.’s Ex. 30 [Doc. No. 110-3] (“Kanios Dep.”) at 6-7.) At some 
point in 1997, Papadimos heard about an investment opportunity with a Minneapolis 
businessman named Tom Petters, and, more specifically, with a “diverting” business that 
Petters was running with consumer goods. In short, Papadimos believed, Petters needed 
Papadimos’s money so that Petters could buy large lots of older, unsold consumer goods 
from wholesalers, and then re-sell, or “divert,” those goods to retailers at a substantial 
profit. (See, e.g., Pl.’s Ex. 23 [Doc. No. 110-2] (“Papadimos Dep. I”) at 46-47 (Q: What 
did you think were funding? A: Oh, that I was lending money. . . there would be promissory 



1    In describing the background of this case, the Court will occasionally cite to 
testimony that certain key witnesses have given (under oath) in other Petters-related 
trials. Although Defendants argue that citing this testimony constitutes hearsay or is 
precluded by collateral estoppel (see Defs.’ Br. in Opp. to Pl.’s Mot. for Summ. J. [Doc. 
No. 112] (“Defs.’ Opp. Br.”) at 14-17), the Court disagrees. The Trustee has amply 
demonstrated that all of the testimony cited herein could be produced “in a form that 
would be admissible in evidence” at trial. Target Corp. v. All Jersey Janitorial Serv., Inc., 
916 F. Supp. 2d 909, 914
 (D. Minn. 2013). That is, either the witness will be available for 
this trial, or, if not available, their testimony would constitute non-hearsay under Fed. R. 
Evid. 804(b)(1). (See, e.g., Pl.’s Reply Br. [Doc. No. 116] at 6 (noting that “[s]hould [this 
case] proceed to trial, Coleman and Martens, both of whom testified at the [earlier, 
related] Boosalis trial and gave depositions, can and will so testify again”).) And, as for 
“collateral estoppel,” that doctrine is irrelevant under the circumstances; the Court is not 
attempting to conclusively apply any of its prior factual findings or rulings against 
Defendants.                                                               
notes, and that Petters, PCI was buying distressed goods, bankruptcy goods, liquidated 
goods, and re-selling them.”). Papadimos also thought that, because Petters was working 

with “distressed goods and bankruptcy goods,” Petters would be generating 40 to 60 
percent in “annual rate[s] of return.” (See Defs.’ Ex. B. [Doc. No. 105-1] (“Papadimos Dep. 
II”) at 17 (describing a conversation he had with one of Petters’s associates).)  
    Before investing with Petters, though, Papadimos did some due diligence. Among 
other things, he (a) had a short meeting with Petters in Minneapolis, and, while there, 
observed that Petters owned actual warehouses and retail stores that had “thousands of 

boxes” inside of them (see Papadimos Dep. II. at 13-14), (b) spoke with Thomas Hays (a 
well-regarded lawyer who worked with Petters) on multiple occasions, and learned that 
Hays was confident about Petters’s business acumen (id. at 15-19), (c) talked to at least 
one business  that  Petters  had  purportedly  conducted a  merchandise  transaction  with, 
Montgomery Ward, and confirmed that a business relationship existed between the two 

companies (id. at 34, 76), and (d) read articles in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune newspaper 
about Petters’s businesses (thus again confirming the fact that the businesses did exist) (id. 
at 31, 76, 132).                                                          
    Consequently,  in  July  1997,  Papadimos  decided  to  begin  lending  to  Petters’s 
wholly-owned company, Petters Company, Inc. (“PCI”).2 (See Defs.’ Ex. J [Doc. No. 105-

2] (“July 8, 1997 Promissory Note”).) Papadimos first lent money to PCI in 30- or 60-day 
loans, with an annualized interest rate averaging about 38 percent. (See Pl.’s Ex. 22 [Doc. 

2    Petters was, at all relevant times, PCI’s sole shareholder and President. (See Pl.’s 
Ex. 2 [Doc. No. 110-1] (“Petters Crim. Trial Tr.”) at 646-48 (Coleman).)  
No. 110-2] (“Martens – Papadimos Tracing Report”) at ECF p. 494.) As time went on, 
however, Papadimos lent Petters larger sums of money, and often simply “rolled” his 

principal investment from one promissory note to another, so as to keep receiving interest 
payments without putting any “new” money into PCI. (See Pl.’s Ex. 20 [Doc. No. 110-2] 
(“Martens – Papadimso Transfers Report”) at ECF p. 445 (showing that Papadimos stopped 
investing new principal into PCI in 2001).)                               
    Moreover, in March 2000, Papadimos also convinced his wife, Chris Kanios, to 
invest some of her personal 401(k) retirement fund with PCI, too, on virtually identical 

terms to his own loans. (See Kanios Dep. at 7-8; accord Pl.’s Ex. 29 [Doc. No. 110-3] 
(“Martens  –  Kanios  Tracing  Report”)  at  ECF  p.  54.)  Kanios  relied  entirely  on  her 
husband’s due diligence, and “had no understanding of what PCI’s business was.” (Kanios 
Dep. at 11.)                                                              
    The couple continued to lend money to PCI until 2005, when PCI told them that it 

only wanted to work with larger-scale investors, like hedge funds, from then on out. (See 
Papadimos Dep. II at 13, 17.) Shortly thereafter, PCI re-paid Defendants their principal 
investment(s) in full. (See Papadimos Dep. I at 107.)                     
    In sum, between July 1997 and March 2006, Papadimos lent $3,297,300 to PCI, 
arising out of at least 87 promissory notes and 115 related “transactions.” (See Martens – 

Papadimos Tracing Report ¶¶ 9, 12; see also id. at n.2 (noting that “the difference between 
the 115 transactions and the 87 promissory notes” arose for “one of the following reasons”: 
“(1)  rolling of  principal and/or  interest  on  certain  notes;  (2)  multiple  interest and/or 
principal payments on the same note; or (3) reversals due to insufficient funds, uncollected 
checks, or missing endorsements”).) In return, PCI paid Papadimos $3,126,524.37 in 
interest. (See id. ¶ 9.)3                                                 

    Similarly, between March 2000 and March 2006, Kanios lent $690,000 to PCI, 
arising out of at least 13 promissory notes and 21 related transactions. (See Martens – 
Kanios Tracing Report ¶¶ 9, 12.) In return, PCI paid Kanios $572,500.22 in interest. (See 
id. ¶ 9; accord Kanios Dep. at 14-15 (admitting that she received this amount in interest 
income).)                                                                 
    Notably, during this entire time period, it is undisputed that Defendants believed 

they were investing in PCI’s “diverting” business, and in the merchandise purchases and 
re-sales undergirding that business; they did not believe they were providing general 
business loans to PCI. (See supra at 3-4.) In fact, the vast majority of the promissory notes 
Defendants signed with PCI included a security interest in a specific order of merchandise 
that PCI had purportedly bought with Defendants’ money, as well as in any proceeds from 

sales of that merchandise. (See Matens – Papadimos Tracing Report ¶ 33 (stating that 74 


3    Defendants argue that Papadimos only received $2,756,054 in interest income. 
(See Defs.’ Br. in Support of Summ. J. [Doc. No. 104] (“Defs.’ Summ. J. Br.”) at 6.) In 
support of this argument, Defendants contend that a “corrected 2006 Form 1099-INT,” 
showed that Papadimos only received $63,436.83 in interest income in 2006, as opposed 
to the $370,697.87 originally reported. (See Defs.’ Ex. H [Doc. No. 105-2] (“April 2008 
Letter in Connection with Corrected 2006 Form 1099-INT”).) However, as the Trustee 
pointed out at oral argument, its expert forensic account, Mr. Theodore Martens, took this 
corrected 1099 form into account when calculating the amount of interest Papadimos 
received from PCI. Defendants’ counsel did not attempt to rebut this interpretation of Mr. 
Martens’s accounting at any point during the hearing, and the Court cannot find any 
evidence in the record that would have allowed them to do so. As such, there is no 
genuine dispute as to the amount of interest Papadimos earned as a result of his 
transactions with PCI.                                                    
of Papadimos’s promissory notes referenced a security agreement and accompanying 
“purchase order” underlying that agreement); Martens – Kanios Tracing Report ¶ 28 (same, 

with respect to nine of Kanio’s promissory notes).) What’s more, these security agreements 
contained language confirming that the express purpose of Defendants’ loans was to allow 
PCI to purchase, and then re-sell, merchandise, i.e., “[t]his Security Interest is granted to 
secure payment of funds loaned to [PCI] which has enabled or is intended to enable [PCI] 
to acquire rights in or use of certain merchandise, which the parties understand and 
anticipate that [PCI] intends to resell as part of its business.” (See generally Defs.’ Ex. M 

[Doc. Nos. 105-3 to 105-4] (“Defendants’ Loan Documentation”) (approximately 100 
pages of promissory notes, security agreements, and purchase orders exchanged between 
PCI and Defendants, all containing materially identical language).) These purchase orders 
and security agreements constituted an “important factor” in encouraging Defendants to 
invest with PCI. (Papadimos Dep. I at 84.)4                               

         2.  In 2008, the Public Learns that PCI Was Actually a Massive, Years-
           Long  Ponzi  Scheme,  In  Which  Funds  from  Investors  Like 
           Defendants Were Primarily Used to Re-Pay Other Investors, Rather 
           Than to Finance Legitimate Commercial Transactions            


4    As mentioned above, a few of the promissory notes Defendants signed with PCI 
did not contain a security agreement making any kind of representation as to how 
Defendants’ loan would be spent. However, not only did these few non-securitized loans 
exclusively occur near the tail end of Defendants’ business relationship with PCI (see, 
e.g., Defs.’ Ex. N [Doc. No. 105-2] (“2005 Loan Documentation”)), but there is no 
evidence that either Defendant changed their interpretation of what they were investing in 
because of this slight change in documentation. (See, e.g., Papadimos Dep. II at 91 
(admitting that he did not even recall that “at some point . . . no security agreements were 
provided with the promissory note”).)                                     
    In reality, however, Defendants were not investing in a diverting business, much 
less in specific merchandise transactions. Rather, Defendants were investing in a Ponzi 

scheme that maintained only a superficial veneer of a diverting business. See, e.g., United 
States v. Petters, 
663 F.3d 375
 (8th Cir. 2011) (providing general background on the now-
infamous “Petters Ponzi Scheme”). As one of the key participants in this scheme (Deanna 
Coleman) has repeatedly testified since she first turned state’s witness in 2008, including 
in a lengthy deposition she sat for in this case, “all of” the purchase orders attached to 
Defendants’  security  agreements  were  either  vastly  overstated  or  fabricated  in  their 

entirety. (See Pl.’s Ex. 13 [Doc. No. 110-1] (“Coleman Dep. I”) at 88 (“[I]nvestors [in PCI] 
never invested in a real transaction with a real purchase order, because every purchase 
order that [an] investor received or invested in was fake.”); accord Pl.’s Ex. 1 [Doc. No. 
110-1] (“Boosalis Civil Trial Tr.”) at 232 (Coleman); Petters Crim. Trial Tr. at 648 
(Coleman).) Instead, Coleman testified, PCI’s three principal officers (Coleman, Petters, 

and a man named Bob White) essentially operated the company as a four-part scam: first, 
PCI would conduct some unprofitable, low-volume diverting business for show (ala a 
Potemkin  village);  then,  Coleman  or  White  would  forge  purchase  orders  and  bank 
statements  to  make  investors  believe  that  those  low-volume  “Potemkin  deals”  were 
actually high-volume purchases resulting in multi-million dollar sales; next, PCI would use 

its fake purchase orders (and high promised returns) to solicit “securitized loans” from 
investors like Defendants; and, finally, PCI would use these loans to re-pay other investors 
as their loans became due (or to pay expenses otherwise unconnected to PCI’s purported 
diverting business). (See generally Coleman Dep. I; accord Boosalis Civil Trial Tr. at 227-
33 (Coleman); Petters Crim. Trial Tr. at 632-48 (Coleman).)               

    With respect to Papadimos in particular, Coleman testified as follows:  
         Q: Do you recall ever speaking to [Papadimos]?                  
         . . .                                                           
         A: Yeah, I talked to [him].                                     
         Q: Do you remember what you talked about?                       
         A: If [PCI] needed money I might have called him up and asked for two, 
         three million dollars to do a certain deal.                     
         Q: And at the time you called him to ask him to do a certain deal, were you 
         providing false or misleading invoices at that time?            
         A: Yes.                                                         
         Q: And I think you testified that there was not one legitimate invoice ever 
         used with the small investors,5 is that correct?                
         A: There was no real purchase order ever given to an investor, correct.  

         (Coleman Dep. I at 193-94.)                                     

At a subsequent deposition, Ms. Coleman further noted that the “Montgomery Ward” deal 
that Papadimos had relied on as part of his due diligence had, in fact, been one of PCI’s 
signature “Potemkin deals,” in which Petters (and Coleman) vastly overstated the amount 
of merchandise PCI had purchased from Montgomery Ward, and then lied about the 
millions of dollars in “accounts receivable” it was “owed” from purported “re-sales” of 
that inventory. (See Pl.’s Ex. 1 [Doc. No. 115-1] (“Coleman Dep. II”) at 370-76.)  

5    For context, from 1996 to 2008, PCI entered into 3,800 promissory note 
transactions with 153 “private,” or “small,” investors, many of whom were similarly 
situated to Defendants. (See Pl.’s Ex. 17 [Doc. No. 110-2] (“2010         
PriceWaterhouseCoopers Interim Global Report”) ¶ 124.) Although PCI moved away 
from these private investors and toward “large investment funds” in the early 2000s (id. ¶ 
134), Ms. Coleman nonetheless testified that private investors like Defendants were 
essential to PCI’s scheme because traditional banking was “very hard” for PCI. (See 
Coleman Dep. I at 233.)                                                   
    On a more general level, Coleman also testified that she, Petters, and White had 
been intentionally committing this fraud since 1994. (See Coleman Dep. I at 21, 24, 208-

09; accord Boosalis Civil Trial Tr. at 228 (Coleman); Petters Crim. Trial Tr. at 567, 773-
74 (Coleman).) Indeed, shortly after the FBI discovered this scheme, Coleman pled guilty 
to conspiracy to commit mail fraud. (See Pl.’s Ex. 10 [Doc. No. 110-1] (“Coleman Criminal 
Judgment”).) White similarly pled guilty to two criminal charges – aiding and abetting mail 
fraud, and illegal monetary transactions – and testified as such at Petters’s criminal trial. 
(See Pl.’s Ex. 11 [Doc. No. 110-1] (“White Criminal Judgment”); Petters Crim. Trial Tr. 

at 1271 (White) (admitting that he forged “hundreds of millions of dollars” of merchandise 
sales to wholesalers that did not in fact occur).) And, perhaps most notably, after a month-
long trial, a jury found Petters guilty of 20 criminal charges, including 13 counts of wire 
fraud and mail fraud, and four counts of money laundering. (See Pl.’s Ex. 9 [Doc. No. 110-
1] (“Petters Criminal Judgment”).)6                                       

    Coleman similarly testified that she, Petters, and White took substantial steps to 
keep this scheme secret from both investors and other PCI employees, such as by falsifying 
bank account, profit and loss, and insurance statements. (See Pl.’s Ex. 14 [Doc. No. 110-
1] (“Coleman Dep. II”) at 389-90, 409-10; Petters Crim. Trial Tr. at 1140-41, 1163-66 


6    Although Petters steadfastly maintained his innocence during both his trial and 
direct appeal (neither of which succeeded), at a subsequent habeas proceeding in 2013, 
Petters admitted that he had “help[ed] orchestrate a fraud” with PCI since the early 
1990s, that he “knew” PCI had been “robbing Peter to pay Paul,” and that he committed 
all of this misconduct “intentionally.” (Pl.’s Ex. 8 [Doc. No. 110-1] (“Petters 2013 
Habeas Hr’g Tr.”) at 31, 38, 76.)                                         
(White).) PCI’s tax accountant, James Wehmhoff, also testified that, in 2007, he discovered 
that PCI had been “maintain[ing] two different sets of books,” which he understood to be 

evidence that PCI was “tell[ing] investors or lenders one thing,” but then “us[ing] funds 
for something else.” (Pl.’s Ex. 15 [Doc. No. 110-1] (“Wehmhoff Dep.”) at 40, 55-56.)7  
    Moreover, in an exhaustive forensic accounting investigation conducted after the 
Petters Ponzi Scheme became public knowledge, the Trustee’s expert forensic accountant 
(the aforementioned Theodore Martens) discovered that PCI had effectively been insolvent 
from December 31, 1996 until its collapse in 2008. (See Pl.’s Ex. 19 [Doc. No. 110-2] 

(“Martens Solvency Report”) ¶ 9.) In other words, at the end of 1996, PCI’s liabilities 
exceeded its assets by at least $6.5 million, and that gap only increased until it had reached 
$3.25 billion by June 2008, when PCI went out of business as a result of the criminal 
prosecutions. (Id. ¶ 20; cf. Wehmhoff Dep. at 69-72 (noting that the tax returns he prepared 
for PCI in 2000, 2001, and 2002 all showed losses in the tens of millions of dollars).) This 

insolvency  occurred  largely  because  “the  assets  reported on  the  PCI  Balance  Sheets 
included fictitious accounts receivable and inventory balances that resulted from falsified 
purchases of goods.” (Id. ¶ 15.) Indeed, Martens added, “PCI . . . did not engage in actual 
inventory  and  accounts  receivable  financing,  with  the  exception  of  some  limited 
transactions involving the purchase of small amount of goods.” (Id.) Petters also did not 

contribute  much  of  his  own  capital  to  PCI,  which,  in  Martens’s  opinion,  further 


7    In October 2010, Wehmhoff also pled guilty to two criminal charges: “conspiracy 
to defraud the United States,” and “aiding and assisting in filing of false tax returns.” (See 
Pl.’s Ex. 12 [Doc. No. 110-1] (“Wehmhoff Criminal Judgment”).)            
“evidence[d] . . . that [PCI] served no functional purpose from [its] inception other than to 
perpetuate the fraud.” (Id. ¶ 24.)8                                       

    Importantly, Martens and his forensic accounting team also built upon Coleman and 
White’s generalized “Ponzi scheme testimony” by conducting an ex-post, individualized 
“tracing” investigation with respect to each PCI investor (including both Defendants here). 
As part of this investigation, Martens scoured PCI’s bank account records (and any other 
available  evidence)  to  glean  whether  any  individual  loan  was  used  to  fund  a  real 
merchandise order, as well as whether that loan was re-paid from revenue earned from the 

re-sale of a real merchandise order. With respect to both Papadimos and Kanios, Martens 
found “no evidence” “to indicate that any of the transactions to/from [Defendants] were 
related to potentially real PCI purchases and/or sales transactions,” but that, “rather,” “the 
funds received from/sent to [Defendants] were part of the rolling churn of the Petters Ponzi 
Scheme.” (Martens – Papadimos Tracing Report ¶ 35; Martens – Kanios Tracing Report ¶ 

30.)                                                                      
    Martens concluded that Defendants’ funds were “part of the rolling churn of the 
Petters Ponzi Scheme,” based largely upon the (highly suspect) timing between incoming 
loans and outgoing loan payments. (See Martens – Papadimos Tracing Report ¶ 15.c 


8    By contrast, Martens separately analyzed Petters Group Worldwide (“PGW”), a 
different Petters entity that owned companies such as “Fingerhut,” “RedTag,” and 
“Polaroid,” all of which conducted some modicum of “real business.” (Id. ¶¶ 28, 32, 35.) 
Although Martens found that the “vast majority of [these PGW] businesses lost money 
and accumulated significant deficit balances” (id. ¶ 28), he acknowledged that, unlike 
PCI, PGW was not a complete fraud from the outset, and accordingly did not become 
irreparably insolvent until December 31, 2002. (See id. ¶ 9.)             
(“[W]e observed that the typical churn of the Ponzi scheme was such that cash received on 
one day was disbursed to other investors the same or the day after.”); accord Coleman Dep. 

II at 443 (Q: What did [PCI] then use to pay investors’ notes? Where did the money come 
from? A: Other investors.”).) Although Martens acknowledged that several of Defendants’ 
transactions occurred around the same time as “real” PCI “purchases/sales,” Martens 
ultimately concluded that no evidence linked that (extremely limited) “real” activity to 
Defendants’ money. (See, e.g., Martens – Papadimso Tracing Report ¶¶ 22, 27-29; Martens 
– Kanios Tracing Report ¶¶ 20-21, 24-25.) In fact, Martens specifically analyzed the 

relative amount of “real sales activity” in PCI’s bank accounts during each of these 
“ambiguous” time periods, and found that the amount of money flowing through the Ponzi 
scheme substantially dwarfed the amount of money flowing from “real business.” (See, 
e.g., Martens – Papadimos Tracing Report ¶ 27 (finding that, although Papadimos received 
an interest payment of $3,300 on May 3, 1999, which was three days after PCI received a 

$68,798.64 “sales” payment, there  was “no evidence to suggest  that the payment to 
[Papadimos] was funded by potentially real sales transactions,” and further noting that, 
“excluding the $68,798.64 incoming transfer marked “SALES,” over $8.4 million was 
deposited into [PCI’s] bank account between April 29, 1999 and May 3, 1999 from the 
serial churn of the Petters Ponzi scheme”) (emphasis added).)             

    Martens also conducted a “cash tracing analysis” to determine if any of Defendants’ 
money flowed to one of Petters’s more “legitimate” companies (see supra n.8), and was 
then used for real diverting activity. (See, e.g., Martens – Papadimos Tracing Report ¶ 30; 
see also Defs.’ Ex. J [Doc. No. 113-2] (“Martens Intercompany Analysis”) (showing that, 
between December 1999 and September 2008, approximately three percent of PCI’s $50 
billion cash flow either went to, or came from, other Petters entities).) However, after a 

thorough investigation of available records, Martens likewise concluded that no evidence 
showed that “transfers to/from [these] other entities . . . relate[d] directly  to any  of 
Defendants’ PCI Note Transactions and/or indicate[d] that Defendants either (1) [were] 
potentially involved in the funding of any potentially real purchases, or (2) received the 
proceeds of potentially real sales made by those entities.” (Martens – Papadimos Tracing 
Report ¶ 30; Martens – Kanios Tracing Report ¶ 26.) Martens specifically re-affirmed this 

conclusion at his deposition. (See Defs.’ Ex. G [Doc. No. 113-2] (“Martens Dep.”) (stating 
that Defendants’ funds were not even used “indirectly,” “through another Petters entity,” 
to “acquire” “real goods, real inventory, for subsequent resale”).)       
      B. Procedural History                                              
         1.  Petters Company Inc., Declares Bankruptcy and the Liquidating 
           Trustee Commences Dozens of Adversary Proceedings to Claw Back 
           Interest Payments Made to “Early” Investors Like Defendants   

    In October 2008, after Petters was arrested and indicted, the District Court appointed 
Douglas A. Kelley, Esq., as a “receiver,” “to take control of the assets of Tom Petters.” In 
re Petters Co. Inc., 
494 B.R. 413, 417
 (Bankr. D. Minn. 2013). The case was then converted 
into a consolidated Chapter 11 bankruptcy, under the supervision of then-Chief Bankruptcy 
Judge Gregory F. Kishel. 
Id.
 Kelley was subsequently appointed Trustee for the entire 
Petters estate. Id.9 Perhaps unsurprisingly, at the time of PCI’s collapse, “very little money 

9    One of the entities Petters owned, Polaroid, entered bankruptcy in a separate 
proceeding and with a separate Trustee (John R. Stoebner). See In re Petters Co., Inc., 
was left in the coffers of the business entities involved, and there were relatively few hard 
assets to show for all of the pre-[bankruptcy] activity.” 
Id. at 418
. Indeed, “[a]fter the 

collapse of the scheme in 2008, the last lenders to [the Petters companies] were left unpaid 
and unsatisfied to the extent of over 3.5 billion dollars.” In re Petters Co., Inc., 
495 B.R. 887, 892
 (Bankr. D. Minn. 2013) (emphasis added). Thus, to recover assets for the creditors 
that had lost billions of dollars of principal as a result of Petters’s scheme, all of whom had 
filed  proofs  of  claim  in  the  Bankruptcy  Court,  the  Trustee  (Kelley)  commenced 
approximately  200  “adversary  proceedings”  against  “net  winner”  PCI  investors,  like 

Defendants, in hopes of “clawing back” those investors’ interest earnings (or “profits”) for 
the benefit of the estate. In re Petters Co., Inc., 
494 B.R. at 417-18
. These proceedings 
were (and still are) immensely complicated, and the Court will not attempt to summarize 
them here. See 
id. at 418
 (noting that, “[o]ver a period of more than two decades, the 
Petters-controlled entities had made tens of thousands of transfers, almost all in the form 

of money, to a large number and variety of lenders, ‘investors,’ charitable donees, and other 
parties”).                                                                
    What is important, though, is the Trustee’s “theory of the case,” particularly as it 
relates to smaller, private investors like Defendants. Put simply, the Bankruptcy Code 
allows a Trustee to “avoid,” or, “claw back,” payments made to creditors prior to the 

bankruptcy filing, for the benefit of the estate, if the transfers were “fraudulent” within the 

455 B.R. 166, 170
 (8th Cir. BAP 2011). However, because of the proceedings’ 
interconnectedness, Judge Kishel presided over that bankruptcy, too. Id.; see also 
Stoebner v. Opportunity Finance, LLC, 
909 F.3d 219
 (8th Cir. 2018) (providing further 
background on Polaroid’s bankruptcy).                                     
meaning  of  applicable  state  “fraudulent  transfers”  law, here, the  Minnesota  Uniform 
Fraudulent Transfers Act (“MUFTA”). See In re Petters Co., Inc., 
495 B.R. at 892
 (citing 

11 U.S.C. §§ 544
(b) and 550(a)). MUFTA deems a transfer “fraudulent,” if either (A) the 
debtor “made the transfer . . . with actual intent to hinder, delay, or defraud any creditor of 
the debtor,” and the transferee cannot show that they accepted the transfer “in good faith 
and for a reasonably equivalent value,” see 
Minn. Stat. §§ 513.44
(a)(1) and 513.48(a) (the 
“actual fraud” theory); or (B) the debtor “made the transfer . . . without receiving a 
reasonably equivalent value in exchange for the transfer . . ., and the debtor (i) was engaged 

or was about to engage in a business or a transaction for which the remaining assets of the 
debtor were unreasonably small in relation to the business or transaction; or (ii) intended 
to incur, or believed or reasonably should have believed that the debtor would incur, debts 
beyond  the debtor’s ability to pay  as they  became due,” see 
id.
 § 513.44(a)(2) (the 
“constructive fraud” theory).                                             

    Although  fraudulent  transfer  law  usually  applies  to  “suspicious  midnight  hour 
transfers,” such as the Debtor who “sells” his friend his beach house on the eve of his 
bankruptcy filing, for virtually nothing in return, courts across the country have broadly 
applied fraudulent transfer law for the benefit of Ponzi Scheme victims, too. See, e.g., In 
re Petters Co., Inc., 
499 B.R. 342, 355-59
 (Bankr. D. Minn. 2013) (collecting cases). 

Consequently, in this  case, the  Trustee  sought to recover interest payments  made to 
investors/lenders like Defendants, on grounds that PCI made those “interest” payments to 
Defendants with an intent to defraud other creditors (i.e., PCI knowingly paid the interest 
with other investors’ money, rather than with revenue from the merchandise sales the loans 
were purportedly funding), and without receiving a “reasonably equivalent value” in return 
for the interest payments (i.e., the “loan” did not benefit PCI’s business, but, rather, 

“merely depleted [its] resources faster”). 
Id.
 at 357 (quoting Scholes v. Lehmann, 
56 F.3d 750, 757
 (7th Cir. 1995)); see also supra at 11-12 (noting PCI’s gradually increasing 
insolvency from 1996 through 2008).                                       
         2.  The Bankruptcy Court Denies the Trustee’s Summary Judgment  
           Motions En Masse, and Many “Petters Claw Back” Cases, Including 
           This One, Are Transferred to the District Court for Trial     

    Following a lengthy and complicated discovery process, which resulted in 
numerous published decisions from the Bankruptcy Court, this Court, and the Eighth 
Circuit Court of Appeals, the Trustee brought summary judgment motions against many 
private investors, including Defendants, based on the fraudulent transfer theory outlined 
above. The Bankruptcy Court10 entertained the first of these motions on March 5, 2018, 
in a case called Kelley v. Charap. (See Defs.’ Ex. A [Doc. No. 113-1] (“Mar. 5, 2018 
Bankr. Hr’g Tr.”).) The Bankruptcy Court denied the Trustee’s summary judgment 
motion from the bench, and then applied its oral ruling to the other at-issue “Petters claw 
black” adversary proceedings, including to the Trustee’s action against Defendants. (See 
Defs.’ Ex. C [Doc. No. 113-2] (“Mar. 20, 2018 Papadimos Summ. J. Ruling”).)  
    As best this Court can tell, the Bankruptcy Court reached this decision for two 

reasons. First, the Bankruptcy Court found that material disputes of fact existed as to 
whether PCI acted with fraudulent intent with respect to each individual transfer the 


10   At this point, Chief Bankruptcy Judge Kathleen H. Sanberg.           
Trustee sought to claw back (which, again, collectively totaled in the thousands). (See, 
e.g., Mar. 5, 2018 Bankr. Hr’g Tr. at 75-76.) Although the Bankruptcy Court 

acknowledged the testimony of Ms. Coleman that “all of” the security agreements and 
purchase orders at issue were fabricated or exaggerated, the Court found that, at least in 
the case of Charap, the defendant-investor had rebutted that presumption of fraud by 
testifying that “he [was] not told that the loans were tied to specific deals, [and] did not 
rely on specific statements that tied the loans to specific deals.” (Id. at 76; see also id. at 
67 (noting that Charap had “testified that he would give [PCI] the money and it could be 

used for any purpose”).) “There [were] no security agreements [with Charap],” the 
Bankruptcy Court added. (Id.)                                             
    Second, the Bankruptcy Court found that Martens’s expert testimony did not 
sufficiently detail whether Defendants’ money was used to finance legitimate 
merchandise transactions (as opposed to whether it was simply part of the “Ponzi 

churn”). (See id. at 77-78.) On this point, the Bankruptcy Court emphasized that, per 
Martens’s own analysis, other Petters’ companies “had legitimate business,” and that PCI 
transferred “over a billion dollars” to those companies during the relevant time period. 
(Id.; but cf. supra at 13-14 (noting that this activity amounted to only three percent of 
PCI’s total cash flow, and that Martens conducted an analysis with respect to these 

“intercompany” transfers).) Accordingly, the Bankruptcy Court reasoned, a reasonable 
juror could find that at least some of any individual investor’s funds may have flowed to 
legitimate, non-PCI transactions, and thus provided “reasonably equivalent value” to 
PCI.11                                                                    

    After reaching this decision, the Bankruptcy Court transferred many of the Petters 
claw back adversary proceedings before it to the District Court for trial (and/or further 
settlement negotiations). These cases were then distributed among the judges of the 
District.12                                                               
         3.  The Court Holds the First “Petters Claw Back” Jury Trial in Late 
           2018, in the Case of Kelley v. Boosalis; the Jury Rules for the Trustee 



11   Based on the Bankruptcy Court’s questioning, it also appears that, in divining the 
meaning of “value” in the Ponzi scheme context, the Court relied on a Colorado Court of 
Appeals decision holding that an (otherwise reasonable) loan to a firm engaged in a Ponzi 
Scheme could provide “reasonably equivalent value” to the firm based solely on the 
“time value of money.” (See, e.g., Bankr. Hr’g Tr. at 29.) However, a few months after 
the hearing, the Colorado Supreme Court overruled the Court of Appeals, and noted that 
the lower court’s understanding of “reasonably equivalent value” conflicted with “the 
majority view in the federal courts,” which focuses on whether an investor’s “profits” 
stemmed “from an actual business venture,” or whether they “merely” “deplet[ed] the 
debtor’s assets under the guise of a profitable business.” Lewis v. Taylor, 
427 P.3d 796, 800
 (Colo. 2018), rev’g, 
2017 WL 526122
 (Colo. Ct. App. 2017).            

12   As of May 20, 2019, it appears that five Petters claw back proceedings remain 
pending before the District Court (excluding this case and the Boosalis case discussed 
infra). Two of these cases, Kelley v. Charap and Kelley v. Johnson, are set for trial later 
this year. (See Kelley v. Charap, No. 18-cv-687 (DSD/DTS) (trial set for Sept. 17, 2019); 
Kelley v. Johnson, No. 18-cv-895 (DSD/DTS) (trial set for June 3, 2019).) The remaining 
three cases are not currently set for trial. (See Kelley v. Dovolis, No. 19-cv-501 
(DSD/SER); Kelley v. Westford Special Situations Master Fund, LP, No. 19-cv-1073 
(ECT); Kelley v. Hofer, No. 18-cv-853 (NEB/DTS).)                         
    Moreover, based on the parties’ briefing and the Court’s review of the docket, it 
appears that at least ten other Petters claw back proceedings remain pending before the 
Bankruptcy Court, and may ultimately be transferred to the District Court, too. (Compare 
Defs.’ Summ. J. Br. at 24 with Pl.’s Br. in Opp. to Summ. J. [Doc. No. 114] (“Pl.’s Opp. 
Br.”) at 16 n.7.)                                                         
    Between November 26 and December 4, 2018, the undersigned presided over the 
first (and, to date, only) Petters claw back trial, in the case of Kelley v. Boosalis. See No. 

18-cv-868 (SRN/TNL). Although the facts in that case differed in some ways from the facts 
here, the Trustee put on an affirmative case that largely mirrored what the Court set forth 
supra (albeit in a vastly more detailed fashion). For instance, Coleman provided factual 
testimony about PCI’s fraudulent intent, and Martens provided expert testimony about how 
each one of the at-issue transfers directly played into the “Ponzi churn.” The Trustee also 
put on four other witnesses, including an IRS agent, a PCI secretary, and a PCI tax 

accountant (the aforementioned James Wehmhoff). In his defense, Boosalis offered solely 
his own testimony.                                                        
    Most  importantly  for  present  purposes,  though,  in  the  days  before  closing 
arguments, the Court had to resolve a legal dispute as to what the jury instruction defining 
“reasonably equivalent value” should say. The Trustee offered the following instruction, 

which the Court found to be an accurate statement of Minnesota law:       
         Reasonably equivalent value may be found if the value Petters Company, 
         Inc. received from Mr. Boosalis in exchange for a payment was reasonably 
         equivalent to the value of the payment.                         

         Value may be reasonably equivalent where the payment made to the investor 
         satisfies a valid antecedent debt. Any payment above the amount of the 
         principal investment is not in satisfaction of a valid antecedent debt if it was 
         made in furtherance of a fraud, enabled by a fraud, or paid on dishonestly-
         incurred debt. If you find that an interest payment made by Petters Company, 
         Inc. to Mr. Boosalis was made in furtherance of a fraud, enabled by a fraud, 
         or paid on dishonestly-incurred debt, then that payment does not satisfy a 
         valid antecedent debt, and is not for reasonably equivalent value. 

         (See Boosalis Doc. No. 111 at 14.)                              
    Boosalis’s counsel objected to this instruction, on grounds that it both conflicted 
with a recent Minnesota Supreme Court decision called Finn v. Alliance Bank, 
860 N.W.2d 638
 (Minn. 2015), and misstated the law of contract enforceability more generally. (See 
Boosalis Doc. No. 101.) Rather, Boosalis argued, the Court should excise any mention of 
“fraud” from its instruction, and should instead simply instruct the jury that “[v]alue may 
be reasonably equivalent where the payment is made to satisfy an antecedent debt,” and 
that an “antecedent debt includes any legally enforceable right to payment against Petters 
Company, Inc.” (Id. at 19.)                                               

    The Court overruled Boosalis’s objection and maintained its original instruction. 
See Kelley v. Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6322631
 (D. Minn. Dec. 3, 2018); see also Boosalis Doc. 
No. 103. In its decision, the Court observed that, not only did Boosalis’s instruction leave 
the jury to resolve the legal question of what constituted a “legally enforceable right to 
payment,” but that, under Boosalis’s proposed instruction, interest paid directly out of a 

Ponzi scheme could always be for “reasonably equivalent value,” so long as it was received 
in good faith and in accordance with a facially legitimate contract. Because this reasoning 
lacked substantial legal support (including from the Finn decision, discussed infra), the 
Court  instead  concluded  that  the  jury  should  be  informed  that,  in  accordance  with 
prevailing legal standards, an interest payment received “in furtherance of a fraud, enabled 

by a fraud, or paid on dishonestly-incurred debt” did not constitute a “legally enforceable 
right to payment.” From that premise, the Court reasoned, the jury could find no “valid 
antecedent debt,” and, hence, no reasonably equivalent value, if it found that Boosalis’s 
interest payments were “directly connected” to PCI’s fraud. Id. at *4.    
    The jury returned a verdict in favor of the Trustee. (See Boosalis Doc. No. 116 
(verdict form).) Specifically, the jury found that the Trustee had proven by a preponderance 

of the evidence that PCI made interest payments to Boosalis with an “intent to defraud” its 
other creditors, and that Boosalis had not proven by a preponderance of the evidence that 
he had accepted any of his interest payments in “good faith” or “in exchange for a 
reasonably equivalent value.” (Id. (the “actual fraud” claim under MUFTA).) The jury also 
found that the Trustee had proven its “constructive fraud” claim by a preponderance of the 
evidence. (See supra at 16 (listing elements).)                           

    The jury accordingly awarded the Trustee $3,502,455 in damages, i.e., the interest 
that Boosalis had earned from his PCI loans. The Court later increased the Trustee’s award 
to $6,382,144.71, in accordance with Minnesota’s prejudgment interest statute. See Kelley 
v. Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6433161
, at *2-4 (D. Minn. Dec. 7, 2018) (granting the Trustee’s 
motion for prejudgment interest under 
Minn. Stat. § 549.09
); see also Boosalis Doc. No. 

117, 124.                                                                 
    Boosalis appealed this judgment to  the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals. (See 
Boosalis Doc. No. 128.) In his appeal, Boosalis primarily focuses on the “reasonably 
equivalent value” controversy noted above. (See Boosalis App. Br. at 26-43, App. Docket 
No. 19-1079 (filed Apr. 9, 2019).)13 The Eighth Circuit has yet to issue a decision on the 

matter.                                                                   


13   Boosalis also appealed this Court’s rulings as to the existence of a predicate 
creditor, the meaning of “good faith” under MUFTA, and the proprietary of awarding 
prejudgment interest.                                                     
         4.  In Light of Certain Rulings from the Boosalis Trial, Both Parties 
           Agree to File the Summary Judgment Motions at Issue Here      

    Defendants’ trial was scheduled to occur shortly after the conclusion of the Boosalis 
trial. (See Doc. No. 97.) However, in a mutually-agreed-upon attempt to resolve certain 
threshold legal questions that might render a trial unnecessary, and thereby save all sides 
time and money, the parties requested the opportunity to file dueling summary judgment 
motions in lieu of an immediate trial. (See Doc. No. 99.) The Court granted the parties’ 
request, and subsequently scheduled a summary judgment hearing. (See Doc. No. 101.)  
    The parties submitted full briefing on the matter shortly thereafter. (See Pl.’s Br. in 
Support of Summ. J. [Doc. No. 109] (“Pl.’s Summ. J. Br.”); Defs.’ Br. in Opp. to Pl.’s 
Summ. J. Mot. [Doc. No. 112] (“Defs.’ Opp. Br.”); Pl.’s Reply Br. [Doc. No. 116]; Defs.’ 

Summ. J. Br.; Pl.’s Opp. Br.; Defs.’ Reply Br. [Doc. No. 119].) The Court carefully 
considered the parties’ briefing, and then entertained a lengthy oral argument on March 8, 
2019. (See Doc. No. 123.)                                                 
 II.  DISCUSSION                                                         
    Summary judgment is proper if there are no disputed issues of material fact and the 

moving party is entitled to judgment as a matter of law. See Fed. R. Civ. P. 56(a). In 
considering whether to grant summary judgment, a court must not “weigh the evidence, make 
credibility determinations, or attempt to discern the truth of any factual issue.” Thomas v. 
Corwin, 
483 F.3d 516
, 526 (8th Cir. 2007). However, “in order to defeat a properly supported 
motion for summary judgment,” a party opposing summary judgment “must set forth specific 

facts showing that there is a genuine issue for trial,” Ingrassia v. Schafer, 
825 F.3d 891, 896
 
(8th Cir. 2016), and must not rely on “mere” “speculation” or “conjecture,” Holaway v. 
Stratasys, Inc., 
771 F.3d 1057, 1059
 (8th Cir. 2014). Further, it is well established that “Rule 

56 applies with equal force where the defendant resists summary judgment, especially where 
the defendant resists by asserting affirmative defenses which it has a burden to prove.” 
Midwest Oilseeds, Inc. v. Limagrain Genetics Corp., 
387 F.3d 705, 715
 (8th Cir. 2004); 
accord Residential Funding Co. v. Terrace Mortg. Co., 
850 F. Supp. 2d 961, 964-65
 (D. 
Minn. 2012).                                                              
    Here, the parties dispute three key issues: first, whether the Trustee is entitled to 

summary judgment as to “actual fraud” under MUFTA, second, whether either party is 
entitled to summary judgment on Defendants’ “reasonably equivalent value” defense to 
“actual fraud,” and, third, whether Defendants’ proposed questions about the meaning of 
“reasonably equivalent value” under MUFTA should be certified to the Minnesota Supreme 
Court. The Court will address each issue in turn.                         

 A. Actual Fraud                                                         
    1.  The Law                                                          
    Under MUFTA and federal bankruptcy law, a debtor’s pre-bankruptcy transfer is 
“fraudulent,” and, hence, subject to “claw back,” if, at the time of the transfer, the debtor 
“made the transfer . . . with actual intent to hinder, delay, or defraud any creditor of the 

debtor.” 
Minn. Stat. § 513.44
(a)(1) (emphasis added); accord 
11 U.S.C. § 544
(b). “Actual 
intent” can be shown in one of two ways.                                  
    First, it can be shown through “direct proof” of fraudulent intent. Citizens State Bank 
Norwood Young Am. v. Brown, 
849 N.W.2d 55, 60
 (Minn. 2014).               
    Second, it can be shown through “badges of fraud” that provide circumstantial 
evidence of fraudulent intent. Id.; accord Ritchie Capital Mgm’t, LLC v. Stoebner, 
779 F.3d 857, 861-62
 (8th Cir. 2015). Although MUFTA lists several specific “badges of 
fraud,” see 
Minn. Stat. § 513.44
(b), the list is not exclusive, and “[c]ourts may consider 
any factors they deem relevant to the issue of fraudulent intent,” Ritchie, 
779 F.3d at 863
; 
accord  Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 647
  (affirming  that  “the list  of  badges of fraud  is not 
exclusive”). If a party establishes “[t]he presence of several badges of fraud,” that party is 
entitled to “an inference of fraud that requires clear evidence of a legitimate purpose to 

rebut.” Citizens Bank, 
849 N.W.2d at 66
; accord Kelly v. Armstrong, 
141 F.3d 799
, 802-
03  (8th  Cir.  1998)  (reversing  district court  for failing  to  instruct  the jury as  to  this 
presumption). A party cannot rebut this inference merely by pointing to “legal formalities” 
accompanying their receipt of the at-issue money or property. New Horizon Enters., Inc. v. 
Contemporary Closet Design, Inc., 
570 N.W.2d 12, 15
 (Minn. Ct. App. 1997) (collecting 

citations).                                                               
    When “no genuine issue of material fact exists” with respect to fraudulent intent, a 
court may grant a party summary judgment on the issue. Citizens Bank, 
849 N.W.2d at 66
 
(granting creditor summary judgment on “actual fraud,” because it established fraudulent 
intent and the debtor “failed to rebut” that evidence); see also Ritchie, 
779 F.3d at 866
 

(same); Clarinda Color LLC v. BW Acquisition Corp., No. 00-cv-722 (JMR/FLN), 
2004 WL 2862298
, at *4 (D. Minn. June 14, 2004) (same).                        
    Importantly, until 2015, Minnesota courts would “conclusively” presume fraudulent 
intent with respect to any pre-bankruptcy transfer made “in furtherance of a Ponzi scheme,” 
so long as there was no dispute that a Ponzi scheme, in fact, existed. Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 647
. However, in the aforementioned Finn case, the Minnesota Supreme Court rejected 

this categorical “Ponzi scheme presumption,” and instead held that “fraudulent intent must 
be determined in light of the facts and circumstances of each case,” and on a “transfer-by-
transfer” basis. 
Id.
 In other words, “[t]he asset-by-asset and transfer-by-transfer nature of 
the inquiry under MUFTA requires a creditor to prove the elements of a fraudulent transfer 
with respect to each transfer, rather than relying on a presumption related to the form or 
structure of the entity making the transfer.” Id.14                       

    However, the Finn court took care to note that “a court could make a rational 
inference from the existence of a Ponzi scheme that a particular transfer was made with 
fraudulent intent,” and that its ruling only precluded a party from being “relieved . . . of its 
burden  of  proving—or  for  preventing  the  transferee  from  attempting  to  disprove—
fraudulent intent.” 
Id.
 (emphasis added). Indeed, following a thorough analysis of the Finn 

decision, Judge Kishel determined (in convincing manner) that a party in the Trustee’s 
position could prove fraudulent intent by (a) “plac[ing] the transfer he would have avoided, 
into a chain of successive investment transactions that involved similar acts of fraudulent 


14   This conclusion appeared to flow from the Supreme Court’s observation that 
Ponzi schemes can take “a multitude of different forms,” and that, consequently, “not 
every Ponzi scheme lacks a legitimate source of earnings.” 
Id. at 646, 652
; see also 
id. at 649
 (noting that “it is not hard to imagine a debtor that begins as a legitimate business 
and eventually turns to fraud,” or who has “assets or legitimate business operations aside 
from the Ponzi scheme”). For instance, in Finn, the at-issue debtor arguably lacked 
fraudulent intent when making at least one of the pre-bankruptcy interest payments 
sought to be clawed back, because the payments indisputably came from a legitimate 
business transaction, not from the “Ponzi churn.” See 
id. at 643, 655
.    
inducement by the Debtors, as to successive investors,” and, (b), showing “the successive 
misdirection of investors’ cash infusions toward the payment of earlier investments rather 

than the application to investment opportunities of the sort fraudulently represented.” In re 
Petters Co. Inc., 
550 B.R. 457, 481-82
 (Bankr. D. Minn. 2016); see also 
id. at 467-69
 
(providing close analysis of Finn on this issue).                         
    2.  Analysis                                                         
    The Trustee is entitled to summary judgment on this issue. This is so for three 
reasons. First, the Trustee has provided substantial “direct proof” of PCI’s intent to 

defraud, on a transfer-by-transfer basis, and in the manner contemplated by Judge Kishel. 
Second, under a “badges of fraud” analysis, the Trustee has also proven its entitlement to 
an inference of fraudulent intent. Third, Defendants have not set forth any evidence, 
beyond the speculative, from which a reasonable juror could rebut the Trustee’s proof of 
actual fraud.                                                             

    First, the testimony of Deanna Coleman directly shows that PCI intended to defraud 
its future (and current) creditors when it made the at-issue interest payments to Defendants. 
That is, Coleman’s testimony shows that, from 1994 through 2008, PCI intentionally lured 
investors to lend it money by promising “security interests” in merchandise that did not, in 
fact, exist, and then intentionally kept those investors coming back by paying them interest 

with other investors’ money (who similarly believed they were investing in “securitized” 
merchandise orders). (See supra at 8-10.) Because PCI applied this fraud scheme through 
thousands of promissory notes and security agreements, Coleman (understandably) could 
not testify as to PCI’s intent at the exact moment of each of the 100-some transfers at issue 
here.  However,  Coleman  has  testified  (repeatedly  and  consistently)  that  she  was 
responsible for drafting the promissory notes, security agreements, and purchase orders 

that undergirded each of the at-issue transfers, and that, from 1994 onwards, “every 
purchase order that [an] investor received or invested in was fake.” (Coleman Dep. I at 88 
(emphasis added).) Indeed, all of the security agreements in the record, from 1997 onwards, 
contain the same fraudulent misrepresentation that Coleman would make to Papadimos 
when she “called him up and asked for” a loan (id. at 193-94), namely, that PCI needed 
Papadimos’s (or his wife’s) money so that PCI could “acquire rights in or use of certain 

merchandise,” and then “resell [that merchandise] as part of [PCI’s] business.” (Supra at 
6-7; see also Papadimos Dep. I at 84 (noting that these purchase orders and security 
agreements constituted an “important factor” in encouraging him to invest with PCI).)  
    Moreover,  what  Coleman  asserts  on  a  general  basis,  Martens  (the  forensic 
accountant) confirms on a transfer-by-transfer basis. That is, as contemplated by Judge 

Kishel, Martens analyzed each transfer at issue here, and, in so doing, found that PCI did 
exactly  what  Coleman  claimed  it  did:  (a)  used  fraudulent  security  agreements  and 
promissory notes to “induce” Defendants to lend money; (b) “misdirected” Defendants’ 
“cash infusions toward the payment of earlier investments,” rather than to investments in 
real merchandise; and (c) paid Defendants’ interest with funds provided by “the successive 

misdirection” of subsequent investors’ cash, rather than from revenue realized as a result 
of real merchandise re-sales. (See supra at 12-14; accord In re Petters Co. Inc., 
550 B.R. at 481-82
.) This is, simply put, an overwhelming showing of direct fraudulent intent.15 

    Second, to the extent PCI’s intent with respect to any particular interest payment to 
Defendants is unclear, a “badges of fraud” analysis further buttresses Coleman’s account, 
and Martens’s accounting. Specifically, the Court finds that three, glaring “badges of 
fraud” accompanied the at-issue transfers, and that, when viewed in conjunction with the 
“direct” evidence outlined above, entitle the Trustee to “an inference of fraud” with respect 
to each of those transfers. Citizens Bank, 
849 N.W.2d at 66
.              

    First,  in  light  of  Coleman  and  White’s  guilty  pleas,  and  Petters’s  conviction 
following  a  month-long  trial,  there  can be no  serious  dispute  that  PCI  was,  in  fact, 
conducting a Ponzi scheme at the time of the transfers, with the goal of defrauding 
investors. (See supra at 10; accord Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 654
 (noting that being convicted 
of “operat[ing] a Ponzi scheme to defraud” investors could constitute a “badge of fraud”).)  

    Second, in light of Martens’s thorough insolvency report, there can also be no 
serious dispute that PCI was insolvent at least six months before Papadimos first lent PCI 
money in 1997, and that PCI fell deeper and deeper into insolvency as Defendants lent 
more  and  more  money  to  the  company.  (See  supra  at  11-12;  accord  
Minn. Stat. § 15
    In fact, in neither their opposition brief nor at oral argument did Defendants attempt 
to rebut any of this direct evidence, other than to cursorily suggest that a jury might not 
believe Coleman or Martens’s testimony. (See, e.g., Mar. 8, 2019 Hr’g Tr. at 47 (noting that 
Coleman is a “convicted” “fraudster”).) Under the circumstances, this kind of vague 
credibility argument is not enough to create a “genuine” dispute of material fact.  Ingrassia, 
825 F.3d at 896
; cf. supra at 18 (noting that the Bankruptcy Court denied summary 
judgment when a defendant-investor had pointed to specific record testimony that could be 
construed as contradicting the Trustee’s evidence of fraudulent intent).  
513.44(b)(9) (whether “the debtor was insolvent or became insolvent shortly after the 
transfer was made or the obligation was incurred” is indicative of actual intent to defraud); 

Ritchie, 
779 F.3d at 865
 (same, and describing “insolvency” as “among the more common 
badges of fraudulent intent”).)16                                         
    Third, the undisputed evidence shows that, at the time of the interest payments, 
PCI’s leaders were actively working to conceal critical information about the payments, 
and about PCI’s finances more generally, from their outside creditors. (See supra at 10-11; 
accord In re Bayou Grp. LLC, 
362 B.R. 624, 634
 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 2007) (describing the 

“intentional[] disseminat[ion] [of] false financial statements and performance reports” as a 
“badge of fraud”); cf. 
Minn. Stat. § 513.44
(b)(9) (whether “the transfer or obligation was 
disclosed or concealed” indicative of actual intent to defraud).17        


16   Martens’s analysis accords with Finn’s holding that insolvency cannot be 
presumed merely by the existence of a Ponzi scheme. See Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 648-49
. 
Martens’s conclusions, as set forth in his expert report, are backed by evidence, not 
supposition. Indeed, Defendants do not dispute Martens’s analysis in any substantial way. 
(See Defs.’ Opp. Br. at 5-6.) Rather, Defendants simply rely on the unadorned assertion 
that Martens’s analysis must be discounted because “Martens did not conduct a transfer 
by transfer based insolvency analysis.” (Id. at 6.) However, as Judge Kishel explained in 
his opinion analyzing Finn, such an analysis is not required under the circumstances. 
Compare In re Petters Co. Inc., 
550 B.R. at 470
 (“If the Trustee’s forensic reconstruction 
for the history of individual Debtor-transferors shows that they slipped into balance-sheet 
insolvency . . . at a specific point in history and never emerged to solvency, that will be 
enough [to show insolvency for fraudulent transfer purposes].”) (emphasis added) with 
supra at 11-12 (showing that PCI “slipped into balance-sheet insolvency” by December 
31, 1996 and “never emerged to solvency” thereafter).                     

17   The Court acknowledges that, in the standard issue fraudulent conveyance action, 
the transfer itself is being “concealed” from other creditors, and that that was not the case 
here. (See Defs.’ Opp. Br. at 6-7 (noting that “many of the transfers were recorded with 
the Secretary of State of Minnesota by way of UCC filings”).) However, given the 
flexibility of the “badges of fraud” analysis, the Court nonetheless finds that PCI’s 
    In sum, these three, essentially undisputed, badges of fraud (along with the direct 
evidence outlined above) provide compelling circumstantial evidence that PCI “made the 

transfer[s] . . . with actual intent to . . . defraud” its other creditors, i.e., “present investors 
who were induced to continue their investments [with PCI] and prospective investors 
which the principals of [PCI] hoped to and did induce to invest in [PCI] in the future.” In 
re Bayou Grp., 362 B.R at 634 (emphasis added). As such, the Trustee is entitled to “an 
inference of fraud” with respect to each of the at-issue transfers. Citizens Bank, 
849 N.W.2d at 66
                                                                     

    Third,  and  finally,  Defendants  have  provided  no  evidence,  much  less  “clear 
evidence,” that PCI had a “legitimate,” non-fraudulent “purpose” in making any of the at-
issue interest payments to them. Citizens Bank, 
849 N.W.2d at 66
. As noted above, the 
overwhelming evidence in this case shows that Defendants were intentionally repaid with 
other investors’ money, not with proceeds from actual merchandise sales or with revenue 

from other, “legitimate” Petters ventures. Compare with Stoebner v. Opportunity Finance, 
LLC, 
909 F.3d 219, 226
 (8th Cir. 2018) (in a claw-back case involving pre-bankruptcy 
interest payments made by Petters Consumer Brands (“PCB”), one of Petters’s “legitimate” 
companies, finding no “fraudulent intent” on PCB’s part because the trustee’s complaint 
affirmatively conceded that PCB “repa[id] the loans through the proceeds of ‘real life’ 

transactions”). Although Defendants vaguely suggest that they might have been repaid with 
“legitimate business income,” based on the (relatively small) transfers between PCI and 

widespread concealment of important financial information constitutes a compelling 
“badge of fraud.”                                                         
other Petters’s entities, they offer no concrete evidence in support of this claim, and do not 
even  acknowledge  that  Martens  conducted  a  thorough  analysis  on  this  very  issue. 

(Compare Defs.’ Opp. Br. at 12-14 with supra at 13-14.) In other words, Defendants’ case 
against a finding of fraudulent intent consists entirely of a case against Martens, and 
Defendants’ case against Martens consists entirely of “speculation,” “conjecture,” and 
“attorney argument.” That is not enough to send this issue to a jury. See Holaway, 
771 F.3d at 1059
; see also Wittenburg v. Am. Express Fin. Advisors, Inc., 
464 F.3d 831, 838
 (8th Cir. 
2006) (“[A]rguments of counsel are not evidence.”).                       

    The  Court  emphasizes  that  it  reaches  this  conclusion  without  considering  the 
credibility of either Coleman or Martens, see Thomas, 483 F.3d at 526, and without relying 
on a “Ponzi scheme presumption,” see Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 647
. Rather, the Court has 
examined the evidentiary record, and has determined that, even  when all reasonable 
inferences are drawn in Defendants’ favor, there is simply no evidence, much less the kind 

of “transfer-specific” evidence contemplated by Finn, from which a reasonable jury could 
find in Defendants’ favor on the issue of fraudulent intent. Compare with Finn v. Moyes, 
No.  14-cv-1293  (JRT/TNL),  
2017 WL 1194192
,  at  *13  (D.  Minn.  Mar.  30,  2017) 
(determining that dispute existed as to the “legitimacy” of a particular at-issue transfer 
because  Defendants  provided  evidence  that  that  transfer  was  part  of  a  “settlement 

agreement,” rather than part of an underlying fraudulent scheme).         
    For these reasons, the Court finds that, with respect to each at-issue, pre-bankruptcy 
transfer from PCI to Defendants, the Trustee is entitled to summary judgment as to “actual 
fraud.”18                                                                 

 B. Reasonably Equivalent Value Defense                                  
    In light of this ruling on “actual fraud,” the question now becomes whether a 
reasonable juror could find that Defendants have met their burden of proving that any of 
their loans provided PCI with a “value” “reasonably equivalent” to the interest payments 
they received in exchange for the loan. See 
Minn. Stat. § 513.48
(a).19    

    1.  The Law                                                          
    Before analyzing what evidence Defendants have offered in support of their 
burden, the Court must first address the threshold legal question of what constitutes 
“reasonably equivalent value” under MUFTA. As in Boosalis, this question lies at the 
heart of the parties’ dispute.                                            

    The Court begins by noting four principles that all parties agree upon.  




18   It is undisputed that the Trustee has identified a “predicate creditor” under 
11 U.S.C. § 544
(b). See In re Marlar, 
267 F.3d 749, 753
 (8th Cir. 2001) (“To exercise her § 
544(b)(1) avoidance power, the trustee must show that the transfer is voidable under state 
law by at least one unsecured creditor of the bankruptcy estate with an allowable 
claim.”). As the Trustee’s brief explains, that “predicate creditor” is Interlachen Harriet 
Investments Limited. (See Pl.’s Summ. J. Br. at 19-21.)                   

19   The Trustee has stipulated, for purposes of this motion, that Defendants transacted 
with PCI “in good faith,” and could thus prove the other element of the statutory defense 
to “actual fraud.” (See Pl.’s Summ. J. Br. at 27.)                        
    First, under Minnesota law, “[v]alue is given for a transfer or an obligation if, in 
exchange for the transfer or obligation . . . an antecedent debt is . . . satisfied.” 
Minn. Stat. § 513.43
(a) (emphasis added).                                       
    Second, in the usual course of business, repaying a loan, or “antecedent debt,” at a 
reasonable interest rate, prior to a bankruptcy, provides value to the payee because it 
eliminates a debt for which the payee (or their successors) otherwise would have been 
liable. See, e.g., In re Duke & King Acquisition Corp., 
508 B.R. 107, 146
 (Bankr. D. 
Minn. 2014) (Kishel, C.J.,) (noting that, when there is “no allegation” of “fraud” or 

“collusion,” “courts uniformly recognize that reduction of preexisting debt, dollar-for-
dollar in proportion to the amount of payment, gives a reasonable equivalence to the 
transfer; and hence the payment is sheltered from avoidance”). This is so even if the 
business is re-paying that loan while it is in financial distress, and its repayment 
preferences one creditor at the expense of others. See, e.g., B.E.L.T., Inc. v. Wachovia 

Corp., 
403 F.3d 474
 (7th Cir. 2005) (emphasizing that, absent evidence of a Debtor’s 
fraudulent intent, a satisfied lender who “loaned money to [the Debtor] at the market 
price, in the ordinary course of its business . . . is presumptively entitled to keep the 
repayment”).                                                              
    Third, however, in the specific context of a Ponzi scheme, there is a long line of 

federal bankruptcy cases (most of which interpret materially identical state fraudulent 
transfer statutes) holding that the “interest,” or “profits,” received by a party directly 
investing into a Ponzi scheme are not in exchange for “value,” much less “reasonably 
equivalent value.” See, e.g., Perkins v. Haines, 
661 F.3d 623
 (11th Cir. 2011); Donell v. 
Kowell, 
533 F.3d 762, 770
 (9th Cir. 2008); Sender v. Buchanan (In re Hedged–
Investments, Assoc., Inc.), 
84 F.3d 1286, 1290
 (10th Cir. 1996); Scholes v. Lehmann, 
56 F.3d 750
, 757–58 (7th Cir. 1995); In re Consolidated Meridian Funds, 
487 B.R. 263
 
(Bankr. W.D. Wash. 2013); In re Madoff Inv. Secs. LLC, 
454 B.R. 317
 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 
2011); In re Indep. Clearing House Co., 
77 B.R. 843, 858
 (Bankr. D. Utah 1987); cf. 
Lewis v. Taylor, 
427 P.3d 796, 801-02, n.4
 (Colo. 2018) (agreeing with this case law for 
purposes of “equity-based Ponzi schemes,” but declining to reach a ruling with respect to 
“fixed-income Ponzi schemes,” like the one at issue here). This is so, these courts hold, 

because the Ponzi scheme operator is not simply paying back a business debt that it 
otherwise would have been liable for (which would benefit the corporation). Rather, the 
operator is conferring “profits” on an investor with other investors’ money (not legitimate 
business revenue), in a scheme that inevitably results in the last set of investors losing all 
of their money and then discovering that those earlier “investments” financed no tangible 

assets from which they could collect payment. See Donell, 
533 F.3d at 770
 (“[P]rofits 
gained through theft from later investors are not a reasonably equivalent exchange for the 
winning investor’s initial investment.”); Scholes, 
56 F.3d at 757
 (“The paying out of 
profits to [a defendant investor] not offset by further investments by him conferred no 
benefit on the [Debtor] but merely depleted [its] resources faster.”). As such, these courts 

have reasoned, although a “winning” investor is entitled to keep their principal 
investment into a Ponzi scheme (because they have a right to receive what they initially 
put into the scheme, as a matter of restitution), this entitlement does not extend to 
“profits” (in an equity-based Ponzi scheme) or “interest payments” (in a fixed-income 
Ponzi scheme).20                                                          

    Fourth, prior principle notwithstanding, under MUFTA, a Ponzi scheme 
operator’s repayment of a loan (with interest) “can constitute reasonably equivalent 
value,” if that “antecedent debt” was repaid pursuant to a “legally enforceable” contract 
against the scheme’s operator. Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 650-51
 (emphasis added). 
Specifically, Finn held, based on the facts before it, a party that loans money to a Ponzi 
scheme operator acted pursuant to a “legally enforceable” contract, and hence provided 

“reasonably equivalent value,” if their loan was for a reasonable interest rate, financed an 
“actual” business transaction, and was then repaid with “real” money flowing from that 
transaction. 
Id. at 652, 655-56
; see also supra n.14. In other words, Finn ruled, there is no 
presumption under MUFTA that every lending contract entered into with a Ponzi scheme 
operator is invalid, and hence unable to provide “reasonably equivalent value” to the 

operator. See Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 655
 (“Because we have already rejected a rule 
requiring us to invalidate all contracts made with a Ponzi-scheme operator, and the 
Receiver essentially provides no reason to invalidate the [at-issue lending contract] other 
than the fact it was a part of a greater Ponzi scheme, we conclude that the satisfaction of 


20   Although not relevant here, the Court notes that this theory of liability focuses on 
individuals who invest into the Ponzi churn itself; it may not apply to parties who provide 
“consumable goods or services” to a Ponzi scheme operator prior to their bankruptcy. 
See, e.g., Janvey v. Golf Channel, Inc., 
487 S.W.3d 560, 575, 581-82
 (Tex. 2016) 
(holding that, although millions of dollars of payments from Ponzi scheme operator to the 
Golf Channel for advertising time might have helped further the Ponzi scheme, the 
payments were in exchange for “reasonably equivalent value,” i.e., “advertising 
services,” and were therefore not subject to claw back).                  
[the lender’s] antecedent debt constituted ‘value’ under MUFTA.”) (emphasis added); cf. 
id. at 649
 (noting that “it is not hard to imagine a debtor that begins as a legitimate 

business and eventually turns to fraud,” or who has “assets or legitimate business 
operations aside from the Ponzi scheme”).                                 
    Disagreement arises, however, as to how one should interpret these four 
principles. In the Trustee’s view (which this Court adopted in Boosalis), these four 
principles stand for the proposition that not “all contracts between a Ponzi scheme 
operator and an investor are unenforceable as a matter of public policy, as [that] would 

deprive the investor of an opportunity to prove that its contract was outside the Ponzi 
scheme and therefore legally enforceable.” (Pl.’s Reply Br. at 8; accord Kelley v. 
Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6322631
, at *2-3).) But, the Trustee continues, if the evidence 
definitively shows that a lending contract was “in furtherance of” the “fraudulent” Ponzi 
churn, that contract is not enforceable, under either Finn or the longstanding federal 

bankruptcy case law cited above. (See Pl.’s Summ. J. Br. at 27-28.) In other words, the 
Trustee argues, Finn did not outright reject the prior law concerning the unenforceability 
of Ponzi scheme “profits.” Rather, Finn merely sought to limit any “presumptions” 
arising out of that case law, so as to align Ponzi scheme claw back cases with MUFTA’s 
individualized, “transfer by transfer” mode of analysis, and with MUFTA’s focus on 

combating “fraudulent” transfers, rather than mere “preferences” to “bona fide” creditors. 
See Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 647
; see also 
id. at 653
 (“MUFTA does not prohibit a debtor 
from making a preferential transfer in favor of one bona fide creditor over another, so 
long as the transfer is not fraudulent.”) (emphasis added). What’s more, the Trustee adds, 
because “interest payments” arising out of a Ponzi churn “aim to deceive a third party,” 
i.e., other investors, the payments are also unenforceable as a matter of black letter 

contract law. (See, e.g., Pl.’s Opp. Br. at 8-9 (collecting cases finding a contract “void” 
because it “ha[d] for its object the practice of deception upon a third party”); Kelley v. 
Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6322631
, at *4 (same); cf. Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 651
 (“[A]ny legally 
enforceable right to payment against the debtor is sufficient to qualify as an antecedent 
debt under MUFTA.”) (emphasis added).)                                    
    Defendants disagree with this interpretation. In their view, Finn did reject the prior 

case law concerning the unenforceability of Ponzi scheme “profits,” and that this Court 
was wrong to assume otherwise in Boosalis. (See, e.g., Defs.’ Summ. J. Br. at 11, 14.) 
Instead, Defendants argue, Finn stands for the proposition that any interest payments 
received from a Ponzi scheme operator are in exchange for “reasonably equivalent 
value,” so long as the payments are pursuant to reasonable interest rates and in 

accordance with a facially legitimate promissory note, just as the payments would be in 
the non-Ponzi scheme context. (Id.; see also In re Carrozzella & Richardson, 
286 B.R. 480
 (D. Conn. 2002) (adopting this argument, in direct contravention of the majority 
view of federal courts); In re Unified Commercial Capital, 
160 B.R. 343
 (Bankr. 
W.D.N.Y. 2001) (same).) Moreover, Defendants contend, so long as there is no 

allegation that a lender knowingly participated in the Ponzi scheme, lending contracts 
with a Ponzi scheme operator are enforceable as a matter of black letter contract law, and 
hence provide “reasonably equivalent value” under the reasoning of Finn. (See Defs.’ 
Summ. J. Br. at 10-14; Defs.’ Reply Br. at 5-8.) This is so, the argument goes, because, as 
a general matter, a contract between an innocent party and a criminal counterparty is 
enforceable against the counterparty even if the counterparty uses the contract for an 

illegal purpose. (Id. (citing, e.g., Anheuser-Busch Brewing Assn. v. Mason, 
46 N.W. 558, 558
 (Minn. 1890) (upholding beer salesman’s contract to sell beer to owner of an (illegal) 
brothel, and noting that a contract is “not void simply because there is something 
immoral or illegal in its surroundings or connections”).) In other words, Defendants 
assert, if an innocent investor “had sought to enforce their Notes against” the Ponzi 
scheme operator prior to the bankruptcy proceeding, the scheme operator could not have 

argued that “its own illegal use of funds loaned by [the innocent investor] rendered the 
Notes invalid.” (Defs.’ Reply Br. at 7 (citing, e.g., Eagle Roller-Mill Co. v. Dillman, 
69 N.W. 910, 911
 (Minn. 1897) (holding that a contract is not void if the alleged “illegal 
act” that the contract was connected to did “not form any link in plaintiff’s chain of title 
to [the property] or the money, or constitute any part of its cause of action”).)  

    After careful consideration of Defendants’ arguments and cited legal authority, the 
Court re-affirms its position, and declines to reconsider its Order (and accompanying jury 
instruction) from Boosalis. See generally Kelley v. Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6322631
. As such, 
rather than repeat what it said in that Order, the Court will simply address the two key 
counterarguments raised by Defendants in their briefing here, and will explain why it 

finds neither of those arguments availing.                                
    First, the Court cannot agree that Finn “rejected” the logic of the prior federal 
bankruptcy case law in toto. (See, e.g., Defs’ Reply Br. at 3-4 (arguing that Finn 
“rejected” the Seventh Circuit’s decision in Scholes v. Lehmann).) It is true, of course, 
that the Finn court found that some of those decisions went too far in “presuming” the 
key elements of a fraudulent transfer claim based solely on the fact that a party gave 

money to a Ponzi scheme operator, and in holding that “equality of distribution” 
constituted the sine qua non of state fraudulent transfer statutes. See, e.g., Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 652
 (noting that “equality among a debtor’s creditors, even if they are victims 
of a Ponzi scheme, is not the purpose of MUFTA,” rather, “it is to ‘prevent debtors from 
putting property which is available for the payment of their debts beyond the reach of 
their creditors’”) (quoting In re Butler, 
552 N.W.2d 226, 232
 (Minn. 1996)).  

    However, as Judge Kishel observed, following an exhaustive examination of Finn 
and all of the case law upon which Finn relied, “Finn . . . gives no reason to deny the 
continuing vitality of Scholes v. Lehmann,” and the other, equity-driven federal 
bankruptcy case law cited above, especially with respect to payments made “in the thick 
of a Ponzi scheme.” In re Petters Co., Inc., 
550 B.R. at 481
. This is so because “however 

much [Finn] jibes at several of the foundational principles of [the federal bankruptcy] 
analysis . . . Finn does so only in the service of one end: rejecting the Ponzi scheme 
presumption as to reasonably equivalent value,” and, perhaps more importantly, “only in 
a case brought on facts where a finding of reasonably equivalent value would have been 
amply supported outside of the context of receivership or bankruptcy.” 
Id.
 In other words, 

“Finn says nothing about the alternative situation in the thick of a Ponzi scheme.” 
Id.
 
Moreover, Judge Kishel noted, all of the Minnesota case law Finn cited in support of the 
notion that a pre-bankruptcy transfer provides value if it “satisif[ies] some kind of 
legitimate preexisting debt” consistently “excluded” transfers made through “intentional 
wrongdoing, dishonesty or fraud of some sort.” 
Id. at 473
 (collecting citations). As such, 
Judge Kishel concluded, “[t]here is still a viable theory for an equitable override that 

denies value to the interest component of repayment on debt owing by the perpetrator of 
a Ponzi scheme, incurred in transactions in the main sequential operation of the scheme, 
in an action for avoidance under MUFTA.” 
Id. at 481
.                      
    The Court concurs in this assessment, as it implicitly did in Boosalis, and therefore 
finds that the federal bankruptcy law cited above remains persuasive in the present 
context, as do their holdings concerning the unenforceability of “profits,” or “interest,” 

paid directly out of a “Ponzi churn.”21                                   
    Second, the Court also disagrees that, as a matter of black letter contract law, a 
lender has a “legally enforceable” right to receive interest paid out of a Ponzi scheme, 
simply because they did not knowingly participate in the Ponzi scheme themselves. Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 651
. As the Court explained in its Boosalis order, “a contract that aims to 

deceive a third party is void” as against public policy, and, in a Ponzi scheme, contractual 


21   What’s more, Finn in no way suggested that it was adopting the minority federal 
court view, in which interest payments made pursuant to a Ponzi scheme are enforceable, 
and hence not subject to claw back, so long as the payments were made pursuant to a 
facially legitimate promissory note, and at a reasonable interest rate. (See supra at 38 
(citing In re Carrozzella & Richardson and In re Unified Commercial Capital).) Not only 
are these cases clear “outliers” among judicial authorities, see, e.g., Silverman v. Cullin, 
633 Fed. App’x 16, 17 (2d Cir. 2016) (describing these two cases as “outliers”), but the 
Court finds that adopting this position would effectively create a conclusive presumption 
against creditors (or bankruptcy trustees) trying to “claw back” interest payments made 
out of a “fixed-income Ponzi scheme,” no matter how directly connected those 
payments/promissory notes were to a fraud. Such a “presumption” would no more accord 
with Finn than the countervailing “Ponzi scheme presumption” the Minnesota Supreme 
Court rejected.                                                           
payments of interest to an investor (with other investors’ money) plainly “aim to deceive 
a third party,” i.e., those other investors whose money is being misused. Kelley v. 

Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6322631
, at *4. Although Defendants correctly note that the cases the 
Court cited in its Boosalis Order involved contracts between two parties jointly aiming to 
deceive a third party (see Defs.’ Opp. Br. at 10-11), the Court declines to imply a strict 
mens rea requirement from that case law, as the “void against public policy” doctrine is 
not dictated by enumerated, categorical criteria. Rather, the Minnesota Supreme Court 
has held that a contract is void against public policy if “it is injurious to the interests of 

the public or contravenes some established interest of society,” or if “illegality has so 
tainted the contract that enforcing the contract would be against public policy.” Isle 
Wellness, Inc. v. Progressive N. Ins. Co., 
725 N.W.2d 90, 93
 (Minn. 2006) (cleaned up).  
    Applying these broad principles, then, and in light of the longstanding federal 
bankruptcy case law discussed above, the Court can only conclude that an investor who 

profits from a Ponzi scheme, even if an “unwitting accomplice” to fraud against a third 
party, does not have a contractual right to keep interest payments made as a direct result 
of that illegal scheme. See Scholes, 56 F.3d at (noting that an investor who profits from a 
Ponzi scheme has no “moral claim to keep his profit” because he was an “unwitting 
accomplice” in keeping the fraud “going longer,” so as to increase “the losses to the 

[other] investors”); cf. Zayed v. Buysee, No. 11-cv-1042 (SRN/FLN), 
2012 WL 12893882
, at *37 (D. Minn. Sept. 27, 2012) (holding, in the unjust enrichment context, 
that lending contracts with a Ponzi scheme operator were “void” because “they were 
procured by fraud and perpetuated a fraud”).                              
    Admittedly, the Court is reluctant to find promissory notes void, even partially, on 
this “public policy” basis, as “a court’s power to declare a contract void for being in 

contravention of public policy is a very delicate and unrefined power,” and “should only 
be exercised in cases free from doubt.” Katun Corp. v. Clarke, 
484 F.3d 972, 976
 (8th 
Cir. 2007) (citing Hollister v. Ulvi, 
271 N.W. 493, 498-99
 (Minn. 1937)). However, 
under the unique circumstances presented by a proven Ponzi scheme, the Court finds that 
Minnesota law requires the “freedom of contract” to give way to a “principle which is of 
even greater importance to the general public,” namely, the disgorgement of “profits” 

directly procured through fraud, deception, and other illegal conduct. See Lyon Fin. 
Servs., Inc. v. Ill. Paper & Copier Co., 
848 N.W.2d 539, 545
 (Minn. 2014) (observing that 
“Minnesota public policy favors the freedom to contract,” “except . . . when the particular 
contract violates some principle which is of even greater importance to the general public”) 
(emphasis added) (cleaned up).                                            

    Defendants’ cited cases do not convince the Court that it must conclude otherwise. 
All of Defendants’ cases involved fact patterns in which the at-issue contract was only 
tangentially connected to illegal or fraudulent behavior, or where a party’s claim to 
payment could be asserted without any reference to illegal activity. See, e.g., Booshard v. 
Steele Cty., 
217 N.W. 354, 354
 (Minn. 1927) (holding that, although defendant attempted 

to defend against plaintiff’s right to payment by arguing that plaintiff had forfeited that 
right through an (admittedly illegal) “side agreement,” plaintiff could still recover 
because he established liability completely “independent of the illegal contract”); 
Disbrow v. Creamery Package Mfg. Co., 
125 N.W. 115, 118-19
 (Minn. 1910) (finding 
that, although plaintiff and defendant had conspired to “fraudulently obtain” patents on 
some occasions, a court could still enforce an earlier, “perfectly valid agreement” 

between the parties because the earlier contract was “not dependent upon an illegal or 
unlawful transaction”); Eagle Roller-Mill, 
69 N.W. at 911-12
 (holding that defendant-
employee could not defend against his breach of a “perfectly valid” employment contract 
(the embezzlement of grain from the plaintiff-employer) by pointing to unrelated illegal 
activity by the plaintiff-employer, because that illegal activity in no way affected the 
employer’s “chain of title to the grain”); Anheuser-Busch, 46 N.W.2d at 558 (holding that 

court would enforce sale of beer from retailer to owner of (illegal) brothel, because the 
sale of “proper article[s] of merchandise in a legitimate way” to an illegal enterprise 
“merely . . . tend[ed] to promote illegal or immoral purposes,” and in no other way 
connected the retailer “with any violation of the law”).                  
    In a “Ponzi churn” case, by contrast, the Ponzi scheme operator’s “performance” 

of their end of a “lending contract” only occurs because they steal money from other 
investors, by way of fraudulent inducement, which, in turn, encourages the counterparty 
to the contract (and others) to continue contributing money to the illegal scheme. Such a 
“lending contract” does not “merely . . . tend to promote illegal or immoral purposes,” it 
is what makes a Ponzi scheme “illegal” and ‘immoral” in the first place. Id. (emphasis 

added).                                                                   
    For these reasons, the Court finds that the correct legal interpretation of 
“reasonably equivalent value” is the jury instruction it gave in Boosalis. And, there, it 
instructed the jury that “[v]alue may be reasonably equivalent where the payment made 
to the investor satisfies a valid antecedent debt,” but that “any payment above the amount 
of the principal investment is not in satisfaction of a valid antecedent debt if it was made 

in furtherance of a fraud, enabled by a fraud, or paid on dishonestly-incurred debt.” 
(Boosalis Doc. No. 111 at 14.)                                            
    2.  Analysis                                                         
    With the legal question settled, the application of law to fact in this case becomes 
relatively straightforward. That is, just as Defendants failed to adduce evidence showing 
that PCI might have had a “legitimate” intent with respect to some of the at-issue interest 

payments (see supra at 31-33), Defendants failed to adduce evidence showing that any 
one of their interest payments was not “made in furtherance of a fraud, enabled by fraud, 
or paid on dishonestly-incurred debt,” (Boosalis Doc. No. 111 at 14). Accordingly, 
Defendants’ interest payments were not “in satisfaction of a valid antecedent debt,” and 
did not provide “reasonably equivalent value” to PCI. (Id.)               

    Admittedly, Defendants did submit some expert testimony suggesting that the 
interest rates on their loans were “reasonable,” given the “high risk” of “this type of 
financing.” (Defs.’ Summ. J. Br. at 6-7 (describing testimony of Matthew Polsky).) The 
Trustee did not address this evidence in its briefing in any substantial manner. However, 
the Court finds that, because Defendants failed to show that their promissory notes were 

in exchange for non-fraudulent business purposes, the Court need not consider the 
reasonableness of the interest rate attached to the notes.                
    The Court also acknowledges that, were there evidence that Defendants’ 
“promissory notes” were intended to function as “general business loans” to PCI, this 
case might present a closer call on “reasonably equivalent value.” In that scenario, a 
lender could perhaps argue that interest payments on their loans were in exchange for 

“value,” in the sense that the loans were intended to be spent on employee salaries and 
building rent and the like, and were therefore not “directly connected” to a Ponzi scheme 
operator’s fraud. See Kelley v. Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6322631
, at *4 (distinguishing 
between “promissory notes . . . tangentially connected to the fraud” and those “directly 
connected to it”). However, this is not such a case. As detailed above, the vast majority of 
Defendants’ promissory notes were executed in connection with indisputably fraudulent 

security agreements and purchase orders (see supra at 6-7), and were not, in any way, 
connected to “real” diverting activity. Cf. Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 652
 (“[T]here is [] no 
dispute that the banks in this case purchased non-oversold participation interests 
in actual loans to real borrowers, which provided [the Ponzi scheme operator] with a 
legitimate source of earnings with which to pay the banks.”). Consequently, any further 

refining of the law, with respect to the meaning of “reasonably equivalent value” in the 
lending context, will await another day, when more nuanced fact patterns emerge than the 
one at issue here.                                                        
    Finally, the Court acknowledges that the Bankruptcy Court denied the Trustee 
summary judgment on the question of “reasonably equivalent value” earlier in this 

litigation. (See supra at 18-19.) Upon close examination of the Bankruptcy Court’s 
reasoning, though, it appears that the Bankruptcy Court took this action because it found 
that the Trustee had failed to meet its burden on the issue, as is the case in the 
“constructive fraud” context. (See, e.g., Mar. 5, 2018 Bankr. Hr’g Tr. at 78.) Because this 
Court, unlike the Bankruptcy Court, has found that the Trustee is entitled to summary 
judgment on “actual fraud,” and that therefore it is Defendants’ burden to prove 

“reasonably equivalent value,” the Court finds this case distinguishable from that earlier 
decision. See Residential Funding Co., 
850 F. Supp. 2d at 965
 (emphasizing that “one 
who relies upon an affirmative defense to defeat an otherwise meritorious motion for 
summary judgment must adduce evidence which, viewed in the light most favorable to 
and drawing all reasonable inferences in favor of the non-moving party, would permit 
judgment for the non-moving party on the basis of that defense”) (emphasis added) 

(cleaned up).                                                             
    For these reasons, the Court grants the Trustee summary judgment as to Defendants’ 
affirmative defense of “reasonably equivalent value.”                     
 C. Certification                                                        
    Defendants next argue that, in the alternative, this Court should certify the following 

two “unsettled” legal questions to the Minnesota Supreme Court, in lieu of a definitive 
ruling on “reasonably equivalent value” here:                             
    (1) Under MUFTA, is a promissory note given in exchange for a loan legally 
      unenforceable because the borrower operated a Ponzi scheme and employed the 
      borrowed funds in the operation of its Ponzi scheme?               

    (2) Under MUFTA, does the repayment of interest that an entity is contractually 
      required  to  pay  under  the  terms  of  an  agreement  whereunder  funds  were 
      borrowed constitute the repayment of antecedent debt?              

    Because the Court has already rejected Defendants’ arguments with respect to both 
questions, there is no “unsettled” question of state law that the Court need certify to the 
Minnesota Supreme Court. However, for the sake of thoroughness, the Court will briefly 
review  the  law  of  certification,  and  will  explain  why,  prior  ruling  notwithstanding, 
certification is still unnecessary here.                                  

    1.  The Law                                                          
    The Minnesota Supreme Court “may answer a question of law certified to it by a” 
federal District Court like this one, “if the answer may be determinative of an issue in 
pending litigation in the certifying court and there is no controlling appellate decision, 
constitutional provision, or statute of this state.” 
Minn. Stat. § 480.065
, subd. 3 (emphasis 
added). This procedure exists to permit “certification of novel or unsettled questions of 

state law for authoritative answers by a State’s highest court,” and thereby “save” the 
certifying federal court “time, energy, and resources,” as well as allow it to “help build a 
cooperative judicial federalism.” Arizonians for Official English v. Arizona, 
520 U.S. 43, 77
 (1997) (cleaned up). However, the decision to certify a question of state law rests in 
“the sound discretion of the district court,” Allstate Ins. Co. v. Steele, 
74 F.3d 878, 881
 (8th 

Cir. 1996), and is “never obligatory, even when state law is in doubt,” U.S. Bank Nat’l 
Assn. v. PHL Variable Ins. Co., No. 12-cv-877 (JRT/TNL), 
2015 WL 6549595
, at *1 (D. 
Minn. Oct. 27, 2015) (citing Lehman Bros. v. Schein, 
416 U.S. 386, 390-91
 (1974)). In 
fact, less than a month ago, the Eighth Circuit denied a motion to certify a question of law 
to the Arkansas Supreme Court, and, in so doing, reaffirmed the longstanding principle 

that,  “[a]bsent  a  close  question  and  lack  of  state  sources  enabling  a  nonconjectural 
determination, a federal court should not avoid its responsibility to determine all issues 
before it.” Smith v. SEECO, Inc., 
922 F.3d 406, 412
 (8th Cir. 2019) (emphasis added) 
(quoting Shakopee Mdewakanton Sioux Cmty. v. City of Prior Lake, Minn., 
771 F.2d 1153
, 
1157 n.2 (8th Cir. 1985)). In other words, “[t]he most important consideration guiding the 
exercise of [the] discretion [of whether to certify a question of state law to a state Supreme 

Court] is whether the reviewing court finds itself genuinely uncertain about a question of 
state law.” Johnson v. John Deere Co., 
935 F.2d 151, 153
 (8th Cir. 1991) (emphasis 
added) (quoting Tidler v. Eli Lilly & Co., 
851 F.2d 418, 426
 (D.C. Cir. 1988)); accord Sari 
v. Wells Fargo Bank, N.A., 587 Fed. App’x 342, 343 (8th Cir. 2014) (“We deny [plaintiff’s] 
motion for certification because we are not uncertain about the question of state law he 
raises.”).                                                                

    2.  Analysis                                                         
    The Court finds certification unnecessary here, for three primary reasons. First, and 
most importantly, the Court is not “genuinely uncertain” about its interpretation of Finn, 
as set forth in its Boosalis Order and now again in this Order. Johnson, 
935 F.2d at 153
. 
Indeed, the Court finds that its interpretation of Finn largely accords with that of Judge 

Kishel, who is the only other jurist to have written at length about the legal implications of 
Finn. (See, e.g., supra at 40-41.)                                        
    Next, although the Court acknowledged above that other cases may present “closer 
calls” as to the application of Finn (id. at 45-46), the Court in no way believes that the 
legal portion of this Order constitutes a “conjectural” interpretation of Finn in particular, 

or of Minnesota state law in general. Smith, 
922 F.3d at 412
. Indeed, the fact that a recent 
Minnesota Supreme Court decision even speaks to the relevant legal issues in and of itself 
distinguishes this case from other instances where this Court has been confronted by a truly 
“novel” or “unsettled” question of state law. See, e.g., Friedlander v. Edwards Lifesciences, 
LLC, No. 16-cv-1747 (SRN/KMM), 
2016 WL 7007489
, at *5 (D. Minn. Nov. 29, 2016), 
cert.  granted,  
900 N.W.2d 162
  (Minn.  2017)  (certifying  question  regarding  the 

interpretation of the Minnesota Whistleblower Act to the  Minnesota Supreme Court, 
because there was no “controlling precedent” that interpreted the at-issue provision of the 
Act in light of a recent legislative amendment, and because “[n]either the text of the 
amending act nor the legislative history behind it” provided a clear answer to the relevant 
question).                                                                
    Finally, to the extent the Court erred in its analysis, the Eighth Circuit provides a 

forum by which to remedy that error. (Cf. supra at 22-23 (discussing the Boosalis appeal).)  
    Defendants make two additional arguments to the contrary, neither of which the 
Court finds availing. First, Defendants suggest that, because the Fifth Circuit Court of 
Appeals once certified an analogous legal question involving the interpretation of Texas’s 
fraudulent transfer act, the Court should do likewise here. See Janvey v. Golf Channel, 
780 F.3d 641
 (5th Cir. 2015), cert. granted, 
487 S.W.3d 560
 (Tex. 2016); see also supra n.20 
(briefly discussing this case’s facts). However, as the Trustee correctly notes, the Fifth 
Circuit only certified that legal question because there was express disagreement between 
the District Court and the Fifth Circuit panel, “none of whom had the benefit of a Texas 
Supreme Court case defining reasonably equivalent value.” (Pl.’s Opp. Br. at 16.) Here, by 

contrast, not only does this Court have the benefit of Finn, but there is also no express 
disagreement among members of the District or the Eighth Circuit (or even the state courts, 
for that matter) as to the relevant legal questions.22                    

    Second, Defendants also contend that, because the legal questions addressed by this 
Order will “likely reoccur” in some of the other pending “Petters claw back” cases, and 
will prove “dispositive” in those cases, certification is particularly appropriate. (See Defs.’ 
Summ. J. Br. at 23-24 (citing “more than twenty” pending cases).) As an initial matter, and 
as the Court noted above, there are only a handful of “Petters claw back” cases actually 
pending in the District. (See supra n.12.) Moreover, to the extent Defendants are correct 

about the number of cases, the Court finds that this number must be tempered by the 
Trustee’s  assertion  that  several  of  these  matters  “are  subject  to  active  settlement 
negotiations,” and involve different kinds of “non-lender” defendants. (See Pl.’s Opp. Br. 
at 16-17.) Finally, in any event, there is no need to even consider the “dispositive” effect a 
Minnesota Supreme Court ruling may have on future cases because the undersigned lacks 

“genuine uncertainty” about its legal reasoning here. Johnson v. John Deere Co., 
935 F.2d 22
   Although Defendants repeatedly imply that this Court’s decision and the Judge 
Kishel “effect of Finn” decision are at odds (see, e.g., Defs.’ Reply Br. at 12), that is not 
the case. True, Judge Kishel declined “to reach the theory of unenforceability as a matter 
of public policy” (which the Court relied on above), on grounds that “unenforceability” 
could be determined solely by reference to law holding that contracts “fraudulently 
induced” are “voidable.” See In re Petters Co., Inc., 
550 B.R. at 479
 n.32 and 
accompanying text. However, a fair reading of Judge Kishel’s decision makes plain that 
he was not “rejecting” the “public policy” theory adopted here and in Boosalis; indeed, as 
noted above, in conducting his analysis, Judge Kishel explicitly relied on the same pre-
Finn federal bankruptcy case law that the Court relied on here. (See supra at 40-41.)  
    What’s more, the Court finds that any differences between its analysis and Judge 
Kishel’s analysis are largely semantic, and that, at root, the decisions reach virtually 
identical conclusions regarding how best to interpret Finn in the context of a Ponzi 
scheme like the one at bar.                                               
at 153 (“The most important consideration guiding the exercise of [the] discretion [of 
whether to certify a question of state law to a state Supreme Court] is whether the reviewing 

court finds itself genuinely uncertain about a question of state law.”). Indeed, to the extent 
this decision has any “dispositive” impact on the other pending “Petters claw back” cases 
before this District, that is solely because the Court’s colleagues found this Order and the 
Boosalis Order persuasive. See Special Situations Fund III, L.P. v. Am. Dental Partners, 
Inc., 
775 F. Supp. 2d 227, 239
 (D. Mass. 2011) (“District courts are not bound to follow 
the decisions of other district courts.”); accord United Steel et al. v. Pension Benefit Guar. 

Corp., 
602 F. Supp. 2d 1115, 1119
 (D. Minn. 2009).                        
    For these reasons, the Court denies Defendants’ motion to certify questions of law 
to the Minnesota Supreme Court.                                           
 D. Remaining Issues                                                     
    The Court will conclude by addressing a few remaining, ancillary disputes between 

the parties.                                                              
    First, the parties dispute various issues with respect to the Trustee’s “constructive 
fraud” claim, such as the appropriate statute of limitations. (See, e.g., Defs.’ Summ. J. Br. 
at 17; Pl.’s Opp. Br. at 18-23.) However, because the Court finds for the Trustee on its 
“actual fraud” claim, and because the relief sought under that theory is identical to the relief 

sought under its “constructive fraud” claim, the Court need not resolve these issues. 
(Accord Mar. 8, 2019 Hr’g Tr. at 4 (Trustee’s counsel: emphasizing that the damages between 
the “actual fraud” claim and the “constructive fraud” claim are “duplicative”).)  
    Second, the parties also dispute whether the Trustee has sufficiently set forth a case 
of “personal liability” against Kanios (as opposed to liability solely against her 401(k) 

retirement  fund).  Defendants  contend  that,  under  federal  law,  a  lawsuit  against  an 
“employee benefit plan” (like a 401(k)) must separately “establish” “personal liability” 
with respect to a plan’s beneficiary, and that the Trustee failed to do so here. (See Defs.’ 
Opp. Br. at 18-19 (citing 
29 U.S.C. § 1132
(d)(1)).) Defendants do not cite any factual 
evidence in support of this contention. In response, the Trustee observes that Kanios 
“admits she received promissory notes from PCI and decided herself to invest in PCI 

through her pension plan,” and is therefore “indisputably the beneficiary of the notes 
between PCI and [her 401(k) plans].” (Pl.’s Reply Br. at 11.) The Court agrees with the 
Trustee. The deposition transcripts of both Kanios and Papadimos, as well as the other 
record evidence, make clear that Kanios is the intended beneficiary of the at-issue 401(k) 
retirement fund (aptly titled “the Chris M. Kanios 401(k) Savings Plan”), and that PCI’s 

interest payments were meant to (and, in fact, did) benefit Kanios directly, that is, by 
increasing the size of her retirement fund. Based on this evidence, and in the absence of 
any specific contention by Defendants to the contrary, the Court finds that the Trustee has 
sufficiently proven “personal liability” on Kanios’s behalf. Accord In re McCook Metals, 
LLC, 
319 B.R. 570, 590-92
 (Bankr. N.D. Ill. 2005) (noting that, in deciding whether who 

the “beneficiary” to a pre-bankruptcy “transfer” is, courts should consider if “the transferor 
. . . intended to confer a benefit on that person,” if the transferee “actually received a 
benefit,” and if the benefit was “quantifiable”).                         
    Finally, the parties dispute what amount of prejudgment interest (if any) the Court 
should award the Trustee. The Trustee argues that the Court should simply adhere to its 

analysis from Boosalis, and apply Minnesota’s statutory 10% per annum prejudgment 
interest rate from September 10, 2010 (when the Trustee commenced this lawsuit against 
Defendants) to the date of final judgment. (See Pl.’s Summ. J. Br. at 30-31 (citing Kelley 
v. Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6433161
 (D. Minn. Dec. 7, 2018) and Boosalis Doc. Nos. 117, 124).) 
For their part, Defendants again argue that the Court should re-consider its Boosalis 
decision (without citing any new case law or defendant-specific evidence), and should 

instead either (a) deny prejudgment interest all together, (b) grant prejudgment interest at 
the (far lower) federal interest rate, from a later date of the litigation (such as October 31, 
2017, the date Martens issued his final expert report) to the date of final judgment, or, at 
worst, (c) grant prejudgment at the federal interest rate from September 10, 2010 to the 
date of final judgment. (See Defs.’ Opp. Br. at 19-22.) In making this argument, Defendants 

rely heavily on equitable considerations, namely, that “this adversary proceeding [was] part 
of  a  large,  extraordinarily  complex  bankruptcy  proceeding,”  involving  “questions  of 
unsettled, and shifting, law,” and that it was therefore “reasonable for Defendants to decline 
payment and approach the Court to adjudicate the rights of the parties.” (Id.)  
    For the reasons already explained in the Boosalis Order, Minnesota law, not federal 

law, provides the prejudgment interest rate for this action. See Kelley v. Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6433161
, at *3-4 (holding that, because Minnesota law “supplied the substantive basis for 
the Trustee’s claims,” Minnesota law governs the application of prejudgment interest).  
    Moreover, as the Court also noted in its Boosalis Order, far from being an unusual 
occurrence, “[c]ourts regularly award prejudgment interest whenever damages lawfully 

due are withheld, unless there are exceptional circumstances to justify the refusal,” so as 
to both “compensate prevailing parties for the true costs of money damages incurred, and 
. . . promote settlement and deter attempts to benefit unfairly from the inherent delays of 
litigation.” Kelley v. Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6433161
, at *2, *4 (emphasis added) (cleaned up); 
accord In re RFC & ResCap Liquidating Trust Litig., No. 13-cv-3451 (SRN/HB), 
2019 WL 1237166
, at *8 (D. Minn. Mar. 18, 2019) (same, and also in the context of a years-

long,  highly  complex  litigation).  Defendants  do  not  point  to  any  “exceptional 
circumstances” here, such as bad faith on the part of the Trustee.        
    Finally, although Defendants argue that it is unfair to charge them prejudgment 
interest from “the commencement of this action” to the present, rather than from some later 
date  to  the  present,  the  Court  declines  to  arbitrarily  pick  a  “fair  start  date”  for  the 

application of prejudgment interest, as that would conflict with the statute’s mandatory 
language. See 
Minn. Stat. § 549.09
, subd. 1(b) (stating that prejudgment interest “shall be 
computed . . . from the time of the commencement of the action . . . or the time of a written 
notice of claim, whichever occurs first”) (emphasis added); see also Tate v. Scanlan Int’l, 
Inc., 
403 N.W.2d 666, 674
 (Minn. Ct. App. 1987) (reversing trial court for computing 

prejudgment interest at a post-commencement date, in an attempt to account for “delay 
result[ing] from [plaintiff’s] request for a trial date continuance,” and declaring that “the 
language of the statute is mandatory”). And, even if the Court could apply prejudgment 
interest from whatever date it deemed “fair,” the Court would simply stick with the date 
that this action commenced, again, for the reasons stated in its Boosalis Order(s). (See, e.g., 
Boosalis Doc. No. 127 at 4-5 (rejecting argument that an “award of prejudgment interest 

in this case” was “unfair because interest accumulated due to factors outside of [Boosalis’s] 
control,” such as “consolidation of discovery,” and instead observing that “awarding 
prejudgment interest here serves the purpose of compensating the prevailing party for the 
true costs of the money damages incurred,” and further noting that PCI’s creditors have 
been waiting “years” to receive any recovery on their lost principal investments).)  
 III.  ORDER                                                             

    Based on the foregoing, and all the files, records, and proceedings herein, IT IS 
HEREBY ORDERED that:                                                      
    1.   Plaintiff’s Motion for Summary Judgment [Doc. No. 108] is GRANTED; 

    2.   Defendants’ Motion for Summary Judgment, or in the Alternative, for an 
         Order Certifying Questions of Law to the Minnesota Supreme Court [Doc. 
         No. 102] is DENIED;                                             

    3.   Plaintiff  is  accordingly  entitled  to  recover  prejudgment  interest  from 
         Defendant Papadimos on the amount of $3,126,524.37, and from Defendant 
         Kanios on the amount of $572,500.22, at the rate of 10% per annum from 
         September 10, 2010 until final judgment is entered; and         

    4.   Within seven days of this Order, the parties shall jointly file a calculation of 
         the appropriate award of prejudgment interest pursuant to this Order so that 
         the Court can enter final judgment in this matter.              

    5.   The pending motions in limine [Doc. Nos. 48, 53, 60, 61, 62, 63, 67, 70, 73, 
         and 76] are DENIED as moot.                                     


Dated:  May 20, 2019                    s/Susan Richard Nelson              
                                       SUSAN RICHARD NELSON              
                                       United States District Judge      

Trial Court Opinion

                UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT                             
                    DISTRICT OF MINNESOTA                                


Douglas A. Kelley, in his capacity as the  Case No. 18-cv-823 (SRN/SER)  
PCI Liquidating Trustee for the PCI                                      
Liquidating Trust,                                                       

          Plaintiff,                                                     

v.                                                                       
                                    MEMORANDUM ORDER AND                 
Chris M. Kanios; Chris M. Kanios 401(k)      OPINION                     
Savings  Plan;  National  City  Bank,  as                                
Custodian of the Chris M. Kanios 401(k)                                  
Savings Plan; and Steve Papadimos,                                       

          Defendants.                                                    


Elizabeth M. Forsythe, Michael E. Rowe, J. David Jackson, and Lucas J. Olson, Dorsey & 
Whitney LLP, 50 South Sixth Street, Suite 1500, Minneapolis, MN, 55402, for Plaintiff. 

Henry B. Roberts, Jr., H. Buswell Roberts, Jr. PLLC, 200 Country Club Road Southwest, 
Suite B1, Blacksburg, VA 24060, and Michael L. Gust, Anderson, Bottrell, Sanden & 
Thompson, PO Box 10247, Fargo, ND, 58106, for Defendants.                 


SUSAN RICHARD NELSON, United States District Judge                        
    This case arises out of the wreckage of local businessman Tom Petters’s infamous, 
years-long Ponzi scheme, which lasted from the mid-1990s through June 2008, and which 
left Petters’s creditors with over three billion dollars in unpaid liabilities. In this particular 
case, Plaintiff, the Liquidating Trustee for one of Petters’s now-defunct companies, Petters 
Company Inc. (“PCI”), seeks to “avoid,” or “claw back,” approximately four million 
dollars of interest payments, or “transfers,” received by Defendants Steve Papadimos and 
Chris M. Kanios during the heyday of Petters’s scheme, i.e., 1997 to 2006, on grounds that 
those interest payments (and the promissory notes underlying the payments) were made 

directly in furtherance of Petters’s fraud, and are therefore subject to “claw back” under 
the  Trustee’s  interpretation  of  the  Minnesota  Uniform  Fraudulent  Transfers  Act 
(“MUFTA”). Because the Court agreed with the Trustee’s interpretation of MUFTA during 
a November 2018 jury trial the Court conducted in a companion case to this one, see Kelley 
v. Boosalis, No. 18-cv-868 (SRN/TNL), 
2018 WL 6322631
 (D. Minn. Dec. 3, 2018), and 
because the Trustee believes there are no material facts in dispute that would warrant 

another jury trial here, the Trustee now moves for summary judgment.      
    Defendants not only oppose the motion, but argue that they, not the Trustee, are the 
parties entitled to summary judgment. This is so, Defendants argue, because the Court erred 
in the Boosalis case. And, Defendants continue, were the Court to adopt the “proper” 
interpretation of MUFTA here, the Trustee’s case would fail as a matter of law. In the 

alternative, Defendants also argue that the Court should certify the meaning of certain 
critical terms under MUFTA to the Minnesota Supreme Court, so that that Court could 
resolve what Defendants describe as “unsettled” questions of state law. Defendants further 
contend that, at the least, the Trustee’s summary judgment motion should be denied on 
grounds that a jury trial is still needed to resolve genuine disputes of material fact.  

    For the reasons explained below, the Court grants the Trustee’s summary judgment 
motion in full. Judgment will accordingly be entered for the Trustee.     
 I.   BACKGROUND                                                         
      A. Factual History1                                                
         1.  Defendants  Lend  Millions  of  Dollars  to  Petters  Company,  Inc., 
           Between 1997 and 2006, and Receive Millions of Dollars of Interest 
           in Return                                                     

    Steve  Papadimos  and  Chris  Kanios  (collectively,  “Defendants”)  are  a  married 
couple that live in the suburbs of Toledo, Ohio. Papadimos is a government attorney and 
Kanios is a physician. (See Pl.’s Ex. 30 [Doc. No. 110-3] (“Kanios Dep.”) at 6-7.) At some 
point in 1997, Papadimos heard about an investment opportunity with a Minneapolis 
businessman named Tom Petters, and, more specifically, with a “diverting” business that 
Petters was running with consumer goods. In short, Papadimos believed, Petters needed 
Papadimos’s money so that Petters could buy large lots of older, unsold consumer goods 
from wholesalers, and then re-sell, or “divert,” those goods to retailers at a substantial 
profit. (See, e.g., Pl.’s Ex. 23 [Doc. No. 110-2] (“Papadimos Dep. I”) at 46-47 (Q: What 
did you think were funding? A: Oh, that I was lending money. . . there would be promissory 



1    In describing the background of this case, the Court will occasionally cite to 
testimony that certain key witnesses have given (under oath) in other Petters-related 
trials. Although Defendants argue that citing this testimony constitutes hearsay or is 
precluded by collateral estoppel (see Defs.’ Br. in Opp. to Pl.’s Mot. for Summ. J. [Doc. 
No. 112] (“Defs.’ Opp. Br.”) at 14-17), the Court disagrees. The Trustee has amply 
demonstrated that all of the testimony cited herein could be produced “in a form that 
would be admissible in evidence” at trial. Target Corp. v. All Jersey Janitorial Serv., Inc., 
916 F. Supp. 2d 909, 914
 (D. Minn. 2013). That is, either the witness will be available for 
this trial, or, if not available, their testimony would constitute non-hearsay under Fed. R. 
Evid. 804(b)(1). (See, e.g., Pl.’s Reply Br. [Doc. No. 116] at 6 (noting that “[s]hould [this 
case] proceed to trial, Coleman and Martens, both of whom testified at the [earlier, 
related] Boosalis trial and gave depositions, can and will so testify again”).) And, as for 
“collateral estoppel,” that doctrine is irrelevant under the circumstances; the Court is not 
attempting to conclusively apply any of its prior factual findings or rulings against 
Defendants.                                                               
notes, and that Petters, PCI was buying distressed goods, bankruptcy goods, liquidated 
goods, and re-selling them.”). Papadimos also thought that, because Petters was working 

with “distressed goods and bankruptcy goods,” Petters would be generating 40 to 60 
percent in “annual rate[s] of return.” (See Defs.’ Ex. B. [Doc. No. 105-1] (“Papadimos Dep. 
II”) at 17 (describing a conversation he had with one of Petters’s associates).)  
    Before investing with Petters, though, Papadimos did some due diligence. Among 
other things, he (a) had a short meeting with Petters in Minneapolis, and, while there, 
observed that Petters owned actual warehouses and retail stores that had “thousands of 

boxes” inside of them (see Papadimos Dep. II. at 13-14), (b) spoke with Thomas Hays (a 
well-regarded lawyer who worked with Petters) on multiple occasions, and learned that 
Hays was confident about Petters’s business acumen (id. at 15-19), (c) talked to at least 
one business  that  Petters  had  purportedly  conducted a  merchandise  transaction  with, 
Montgomery Ward, and confirmed that a business relationship existed between the two 

companies (id. at 34, 76), and (d) read articles in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune newspaper 
about Petters’s businesses (thus again confirming the fact that the businesses did exist) (id. 
at 31, 76, 132).                                                          
    Consequently,  in  July  1997,  Papadimos  decided  to  begin  lending  to  Petters’s 
wholly-owned company, Petters Company, Inc. (“PCI”).2 (See Defs.’ Ex. J [Doc. No. 105-

2] (“July 8, 1997 Promissory Note”).) Papadimos first lent money to PCI in 30- or 60-day 
loans, with an annualized interest rate averaging about 38 percent. (See Pl.’s Ex. 22 [Doc. 

2    Petters was, at all relevant times, PCI’s sole shareholder and President. (See Pl.’s 
Ex. 2 [Doc. No. 110-1] (“Petters Crim. Trial Tr.”) at 646-48 (Coleman).)  
No. 110-2] (“Martens – Papadimos Tracing Report”) at ECF p. 494.) As time went on, 
however, Papadimos lent Petters larger sums of money, and often simply “rolled” his 

principal investment from one promissory note to another, so as to keep receiving interest 
payments without putting any “new” money into PCI. (See Pl.’s Ex. 20 [Doc. No. 110-2] 
(“Martens – Papadimso Transfers Report”) at ECF p. 445 (showing that Papadimos stopped 
investing new principal into PCI in 2001).)                               
    Moreover, in March 2000, Papadimos also convinced his wife, Chris Kanios, to 
invest some of her personal 401(k) retirement fund with PCI, too, on virtually identical 

terms to his own loans. (See Kanios Dep. at 7-8; accord Pl.’s Ex. 29 [Doc. No. 110-3] 
(“Martens  –  Kanios  Tracing  Report”)  at  ECF  p.  54.)  Kanios  relied  entirely  on  her 
husband’s due diligence, and “had no understanding of what PCI’s business was.” (Kanios 
Dep. at 11.)                                                              
    The couple continued to lend money to PCI until 2005, when PCI told them that it 

only wanted to work with larger-scale investors, like hedge funds, from then on out. (See 
Papadimos Dep. II at 13, 17.) Shortly thereafter, PCI re-paid Defendants their principal 
investment(s) in full. (See Papadimos Dep. I at 107.)                     
    In sum, between July 1997 and March 2006, Papadimos lent $3,297,300 to PCI, 
arising out of at least 87 promissory notes and 115 related “transactions.” (See Martens – 

Papadimos Tracing Report ¶¶ 9, 12; see also id. at n.2 (noting that “the difference between 
the 115 transactions and the 87 promissory notes” arose for “one of the following reasons”: 
“(1)  rolling of  principal and/or  interest  on  certain  notes;  (2)  multiple  interest and/or 
principal payments on the same note; or (3) reversals due to insufficient funds, uncollected 
checks, or missing endorsements”).) In return, PCI paid Papadimos $3,126,524.37 in 
interest. (See id. ¶ 9.)3                                                 

    Similarly, between March 2000 and March 2006, Kanios lent $690,000 to PCI, 
arising out of at least 13 promissory notes and 21 related transactions. (See Martens – 
Kanios Tracing Report ¶¶ 9, 12.) In return, PCI paid Kanios $572,500.22 in interest. (See 
id. ¶ 9; accord Kanios Dep. at 14-15 (admitting that she received this amount in interest 
income).)                                                                 
    Notably, during this entire time period, it is undisputed that Defendants believed 

they were investing in PCI’s “diverting” business, and in the merchandise purchases and 
re-sales undergirding that business; they did not believe they were providing general 
business loans to PCI. (See supra at 3-4.) In fact, the vast majority of the promissory notes 
Defendants signed with PCI included a security interest in a specific order of merchandise 
that PCI had purportedly bought with Defendants’ money, as well as in any proceeds from 

sales of that merchandise. (See Matens – Papadimos Tracing Report ¶ 33 (stating that 74 


3    Defendants argue that Papadimos only received $2,756,054 in interest income. 
(See Defs.’ Br. in Support of Summ. J. [Doc. No. 104] (“Defs.’ Summ. J. Br.”) at 6.) In 
support of this argument, Defendants contend that a “corrected 2006 Form 1099-INT,” 
showed that Papadimos only received $63,436.83 in interest income in 2006, as opposed 
to the $370,697.87 originally reported. (See Defs.’ Ex. H [Doc. No. 105-2] (“April 2008 
Letter in Connection with Corrected 2006 Form 1099-INT”).) However, as the Trustee 
pointed out at oral argument, its expert forensic account, Mr. Theodore Martens, took this 
corrected 1099 form into account when calculating the amount of interest Papadimos 
received from PCI. Defendants’ counsel did not attempt to rebut this interpretation of Mr. 
Martens’s accounting at any point during the hearing, and the Court cannot find any 
evidence in the record that would have allowed them to do so. As such, there is no 
genuine dispute as to the amount of interest Papadimos earned as a result of his 
transactions with PCI.                                                    
of Papadimos’s promissory notes referenced a security agreement and accompanying 
“purchase order” underlying that agreement); Martens – Kanios Tracing Report ¶ 28 (same, 

with respect to nine of Kanio’s promissory notes).) What’s more, these security agreements 
contained language confirming that the express purpose of Defendants’ loans was to allow 
PCI to purchase, and then re-sell, merchandise, i.e., “[t]his Security Interest is granted to 
secure payment of funds loaned to [PCI] which has enabled or is intended to enable [PCI] 
to acquire rights in or use of certain merchandise, which the parties understand and 
anticipate that [PCI] intends to resell as part of its business.” (See generally Defs.’ Ex. M 

[Doc. Nos. 105-3 to 105-4] (“Defendants’ Loan Documentation”) (approximately 100 
pages of promissory notes, security agreements, and purchase orders exchanged between 
PCI and Defendants, all containing materially identical language).) These purchase orders 
and security agreements constituted an “important factor” in encouraging Defendants to 
invest with PCI. (Papadimos Dep. I at 84.)4                               

         2.  In 2008, the Public Learns that PCI Was Actually a Massive, Years-
           Long  Ponzi  Scheme,  In  Which  Funds  from  Investors  Like 
           Defendants Were Primarily Used to Re-Pay Other Investors, Rather 
           Than to Finance Legitimate Commercial Transactions            


4    As mentioned above, a few of the promissory notes Defendants signed with PCI 
did not contain a security agreement making any kind of representation as to how 
Defendants’ loan would be spent. However, not only did these few non-securitized loans 
exclusively occur near the tail end of Defendants’ business relationship with PCI (see, 
e.g., Defs.’ Ex. N [Doc. No. 105-2] (“2005 Loan Documentation”)), but there is no 
evidence that either Defendant changed their interpretation of what they were investing in 
because of this slight change in documentation. (See, e.g., Papadimos Dep. II at 91 
(admitting that he did not even recall that “at some point . . . no security agreements were 
provided with the promissory note”).)                                     
    In reality, however, Defendants were not investing in a diverting business, much 
less in specific merchandise transactions. Rather, Defendants were investing in a Ponzi 

scheme that maintained only a superficial veneer of a diverting business. See, e.g., United 
States v. Petters, 
663 F.3d 375
 (8th Cir. 2011) (providing general background on the now-
infamous “Petters Ponzi Scheme”). As one of the key participants in this scheme (Deanna 
Coleman) has repeatedly testified since she first turned state’s witness in 2008, including 
in a lengthy deposition she sat for in this case, “all of” the purchase orders attached to 
Defendants’  security  agreements  were  either  vastly  overstated  or  fabricated  in  their 

entirety. (See Pl.’s Ex. 13 [Doc. No. 110-1] (“Coleman Dep. I”) at 88 (“[I]nvestors [in PCI] 
never invested in a real transaction with a real purchase order, because every purchase 
order that [an] investor received or invested in was fake.”); accord Pl.’s Ex. 1 [Doc. No. 
110-1] (“Boosalis Civil Trial Tr.”) at 232 (Coleman); Petters Crim. Trial Tr. at 648 
(Coleman).) Instead, Coleman testified, PCI’s three principal officers (Coleman, Petters, 

and a man named Bob White) essentially operated the company as a four-part scam: first, 
PCI would conduct some unprofitable, low-volume diverting business for show (ala a 
Potemkin  village);  then,  Coleman  or  White  would  forge  purchase  orders  and  bank 
statements  to  make  investors  believe  that  those  low-volume  “Potemkin  deals”  were 
actually high-volume purchases resulting in multi-million dollar sales; next, PCI would use 

its fake purchase orders (and high promised returns) to solicit “securitized loans” from 
investors like Defendants; and, finally, PCI would use these loans to re-pay other investors 
as their loans became due (or to pay expenses otherwise unconnected to PCI’s purported 
diverting business). (See generally Coleman Dep. I; accord Boosalis Civil Trial Tr. at 227-
33 (Coleman); Petters Crim. Trial Tr. at 632-48 (Coleman).)               

    With respect to Papadimos in particular, Coleman testified as follows:  
         Q: Do you recall ever speaking to [Papadimos]?                  
         . . .                                                           
         A: Yeah, I talked to [him].                                     
         Q: Do you remember what you talked about?                       
         A: If [PCI] needed money I might have called him up and asked for two, 
         three million dollars to do a certain deal.                     
         Q: And at the time you called him to ask him to do a certain deal, were you 
         providing false or misleading invoices at that time?            
         A: Yes.                                                         
         Q: And I think you testified that there was not one legitimate invoice ever 
         used with the small investors,5 is that correct?                
         A: There was no real purchase order ever given to an investor, correct.  

         (Coleman Dep. I at 193-94.)                                     

At a subsequent deposition, Ms. Coleman further noted that the “Montgomery Ward” deal 
that Papadimos had relied on as part of his due diligence had, in fact, been one of PCI’s 
signature “Potemkin deals,” in which Petters (and Coleman) vastly overstated the amount 
of merchandise PCI had purchased from Montgomery Ward, and then lied about the 
millions of dollars in “accounts receivable” it was “owed” from purported “re-sales” of 
that inventory. (See Pl.’s Ex. 1 [Doc. No. 115-1] (“Coleman Dep. II”) at 370-76.)  

5    For context, from 1996 to 2008, PCI entered into 3,800 promissory note 
transactions with 153 “private,” or “small,” investors, many of whom were similarly 
situated to Defendants. (See Pl.’s Ex. 17 [Doc. No. 110-2] (“2010         
PriceWaterhouseCoopers Interim Global Report”) ¶ 124.) Although PCI moved away 
from these private investors and toward “large investment funds” in the early 2000s (id. ¶ 
134), Ms. Coleman nonetheless testified that private investors like Defendants were 
essential to PCI’s scheme because traditional banking was “very hard” for PCI. (See 
Coleman Dep. I at 233.)                                                   
    On a more general level, Coleman also testified that she, Petters, and White had 
been intentionally committing this fraud since 1994. (See Coleman Dep. I at 21, 24, 208-

09; accord Boosalis Civil Trial Tr. at 228 (Coleman); Petters Crim. Trial Tr. at 567, 773-
74 (Coleman).) Indeed, shortly after the FBI discovered this scheme, Coleman pled guilty 
to conspiracy to commit mail fraud. (See Pl.’s Ex. 10 [Doc. No. 110-1] (“Coleman Criminal 
Judgment”).) White similarly pled guilty to two criminal charges – aiding and abetting mail 
fraud, and illegal monetary transactions – and testified as such at Petters’s criminal trial. 
(See Pl.’s Ex. 11 [Doc. No. 110-1] (“White Criminal Judgment”); Petters Crim. Trial Tr. 

at 1271 (White) (admitting that he forged “hundreds of millions of dollars” of merchandise 
sales to wholesalers that did not in fact occur).) And, perhaps most notably, after a month-
long trial, a jury found Petters guilty of 20 criminal charges, including 13 counts of wire 
fraud and mail fraud, and four counts of money laundering. (See Pl.’s Ex. 9 [Doc. No. 110-
1] (“Petters Criminal Judgment”).)6                                       

    Coleman similarly testified that she, Petters, and White took substantial steps to 
keep this scheme secret from both investors and other PCI employees, such as by falsifying 
bank account, profit and loss, and insurance statements. (See Pl.’s Ex. 14 [Doc. No. 110-
1] (“Coleman Dep. II”) at 389-90, 409-10; Petters Crim. Trial Tr. at 1140-41, 1163-66 


6    Although Petters steadfastly maintained his innocence during both his trial and 
direct appeal (neither of which succeeded), at a subsequent habeas proceeding in 2013, 
Petters admitted that he had “help[ed] orchestrate a fraud” with PCI since the early 
1990s, that he “knew” PCI had been “robbing Peter to pay Paul,” and that he committed 
all of this misconduct “intentionally.” (Pl.’s Ex. 8 [Doc. No. 110-1] (“Petters 2013 
Habeas Hr’g Tr.”) at 31, 38, 76.)                                         
(White).) PCI’s tax accountant, James Wehmhoff, also testified that, in 2007, he discovered 
that PCI had been “maintain[ing] two different sets of books,” which he understood to be 

evidence that PCI was “tell[ing] investors or lenders one thing,” but then “us[ing] funds 
for something else.” (Pl.’s Ex. 15 [Doc. No. 110-1] (“Wehmhoff Dep.”) at 40, 55-56.)7  
    Moreover, in an exhaustive forensic accounting investigation conducted after the 
Petters Ponzi Scheme became public knowledge, the Trustee’s expert forensic accountant 
(the aforementioned Theodore Martens) discovered that PCI had effectively been insolvent 
from December 31, 1996 until its collapse in 2008. (See Pl.’s Ex. 19 [Doc. No. 110-2] 

(“Martens Solvency Report”) ¶ 9.) In other words, at the end of 1996, PCI’s liabilities 
exceeded its assets by at least $6.5 million, and that gap only increased until it had reached 
$3.25 billion by June 2008, when PCI went out of business as a result of the criminal 
prosecutions. (Id. ¶ 20; cf. Wehmhoff Dep. at 69-72 (noting that the tax returns he prepared 
for PCI in 2000, 2001, and 2002 all showed losses in the tens of millions of dollars).) This 

insolvency  occurred  largely  because  “the  assets  reported on  the  PCI  Balance  Sheets 
included fictitious accounts receivable and inventory balances that resulted from falsified 
purchases of goods.” (Id. ¶ 15.) Indeed, Martens added, “PCI . . . did not engage in actual 
inventory  and  accounts  receivable  financing,  with  the  exception  of  some  limited 
transactions involving the purchase of small amount of goods.” (Id.) Petters also did not 

contribute  much  of  his  own  capital  to  PCI,  which,  in  Martens’s  opinion,  further 


7    In October 2010, Wehmhoff also pled guilty to two criminal charges: “conspiracy 
to defraud the United States,” and “aiding and assisting in filing of false tax returns.” (See 
Pl.’s Ex. 12 [Doc. No. 110-1] (“Wehmhoff Criminal Judgment”).)            
“evidence[d] . . . that [PCI] served no functional purpose from [its] inception other than to 
perpetuate the fraud.” (Id. ¶ 24.)8                                       

    Importantly, Martens and his forensic accounting team also built upon Coleman and 
White’s generalized “Ponzi scheme testimony” by conducting an ex-post, individualized 
“tracing” investigation with respect to each PCI investor (including both Defendants here). 
As part of this investigation, Martens scoured PCI’s bank account records (and any other 
available  evidence)  to  glean  whether  any  individual  loan  was  used  to  fund  a  real 
merchandise order, as well as whether that loan was re-paid from revenue earned from the 

re-sale of a real merchandise order. With respect to both Papadimos and Kanios, Martens 
found “no evidence” “to indicate that any of the transactions to/from [Defendants] were 
related to potentially real PCI purchases and/or sales transactions,” but that, “rather,” “the 
funds received from/sent to [Defendants] were part of the rolling churn of the Petters Ponzi 
Scheme.” (Martens – Papadimos Tracing Report ¶ 35; Martens – Kanios Tracing Report ¶ 

30.)                                                                      
    Martens concluded that Defendants’ funds were “part of the rolling churn of the 
Petters Ponzi Scheme,” based largely upon the (highly suspect) timing between incoming 
loans and outgoing loan payments. (See Martens – Papadimos Tracing Report ¶ 15.c 


8    By contrast, Martens separately analyzed Petters Group Worldwide (“PGW”), a 
different Petters entity that owned companies such as “Fingerhut,” “RedTag,” and 
“Polaroid,” all of which conducted some modicum of “real business.” (Id. ¶¶ 28, 32, 35.) 
Although Martens found that the “vast majority of [these PGW] businesses lost money 
and accumulated significant deficit balances” (id. ¶ 28), he acknowledged that, unlike 
PCI, PGW was not a complete fraud from the outset, and accordingly did not become 
irreparably insolvent until December 31, 2002. (See id. ¶ 9.)             
(“[W]e observed that the typical churn of the Ponzi scheme was such that cash received on 
one day was disbursed to other investors the same or the day after.”); accord Coleman Dep. 

II at 443 (Q: What did [PCI] then use to pay investors’ notes? Where did the money come 
from? A: Other investors.”).) Although Martens acknowledged that several of Defendants’ 
transactions occurred around the same time as “real” PCI “purchases/sales,” Martens 
ultimately concluded that no evidence linked that (extremely limited) “real” activity to 
Defendants’ money. (See, e.g., Martens – Papadimso Tracing Report ¶¶ 22, 27-29; Martens 
– Kanios Tracing Report ¶¶ 20-21, 24-25.) In fact, Martens specifically analyzed the 

relative amount of “real sales activity” in PCI’s bank accounts during each of these 
“ambiguous” time periods, and found that the amount of money flowing through the Ponzi 
scheme substantially dwarfed the amount of money flowing from “real business.” (See, 
e.g., Martens – Papadimos Tracing Report ¶ 27 (finding that, although Papadimos received 
an interest payment of $3,300 on May 3, 1999, which was three days after PCI received a 

$68,798.64 “sales” payment, there  was “no evidence to suggest  that the payment to 
[Papadimos] was funded by potentially real sales transactions,” and further noting that, 
“excluding the $68,798.64 incoming transfer marked “SALES,” over $8.4 million was 
deposited into [PCI’s] bank account between April 29, 1999 and May 3, 1999 from the 
serial churn of the Petters Ponzi scheme”) (emphasis added).)             

    Martens also conducted a “cash tracing analysis” to determine if any of Defendants’ 
money flowed to one of Petters’s more “legitimate” companies (see supra n.8), and was 
then used for real diverting activity. (See, e.g., Martens – Papadimos Tracing Report ¶ 30; 
see also Defs.’ Ex. J [Doc. No. 113-2] (“Martens Intercompany Analysis”) (showing that, 
between December 1999 and September 2008, approximately three percent of PCI’s $50 
billion cash flow either went to, or came from, other Petters entities).) However, after a 

thorough investigation of available records, Martens likewise concluded that no evidence 
showed that “transfers to/from [these] other entities . . . relate[d] directly  to any  of 
Defendants’ PCI Note Transactions and/or indicate[d] that Defendants either (1) [were] 
potentially involved in the funding of any potentially real purchases, or (2) received the 
proceeds of potentially real sales made by those entities.” (Martens – Papadimos Tracing 
Report ¶ 30; Martens – Kanios Tracing Report ¶ 26.) Martens specifically re-affirmed this 

conclusion at his deposition. (See Defs.’ Ex. G [Doc. No. 113-2] (“Martens Dep.”) (stating 
that Defendants’ funds were not even used “indirectly,” “through another Petters entity,” 
to “acquire” “real goods, real inventory, for subsequent resale”).)       
      B. Procedural History                                              
         1.  Petters Company Inc., Declares Bankruptcy and the Liquidating 
           Trustee Commences Dozens of Adversary Proceedings to Claw Back 
           Interest Payments Made to “Early” Investors Like Defendants   

    In October 2008, after Petters was arrested and indicted, the District Court appointed 
Douglas A. Kelley, Esq., as a “receiver,” “to take control of the assets of Tom Petters.” In 
re Petters Co. Inc., 
494 B.R. 413, 417
 (Bankr. D. Minn. 2013). The case was then converted 
into a consolidated Chapter 11 bankruptcy, under the supervision of then-Chief Bankruptcy 
Judge Gregory F. Kishel. 
Id.
 Kelley was subsequently appointed Trustee for the entire 
Petters estate. Id.9 Perhaps unsurprisingly, at the time of PCI’s collapse, “very little money 

9    One of the entities Petters owned, Polaroid, entered bankruptcy in a separate 
proceeding and with a separate Trustee (John R. Stoebner). See In re Petters Co., Inc., 
was left in the coffers of the business entities involved, and there were relatively few hard 
assets to show for all of the pre-[bankruptcy] activity.” 
Id. at 418
. Indeed, “[a]fter the 

collapse of the scheme in 2008, the last lenders to [the Petters companies] were left unpaid 
and unsatisfied to the extent of over 3.5 billion dollars.” In re Petters Co., Inc., 
495 B.R. 887, 892
 (Bankr. D. Minn. 2013) (emphasis added). Thus, to recover assets for the creditors 
that had lost billions of dollars of principal as a result of Petters’s scheme, all of whom had 
filed  proofs  of  claim  in  the  Bankruptcy  Court,  the  Trustee  (Kelley)  commenced 
approximately  200  “adversary  proceedings”  against  “net  winner”  PCI  investors,  like 

Defendants, in hopes of “clawing back” those investors’ interest earnings (or “profits”) for 
the benefit of the estate. In re Petters Co., Inc., 
494 B.R. at 417-18
. These proceedings 
were (and still are) immensely complicated, and the Court will not attempt to summarize 
them here. See 
id. at 418
 (noting that, “[o]ver a period of more than two decades, the 
Petters-controlled entities had made tens of thousands of transfers, almost all in the form 

of money, to a large number and variety of lenders, ‘investors,’ charitable donees, and other 
parties”).                                                                
    What is important, though, is the Trustee’s “theory of the case,” particularly as it 
relates to smaller, private investors like Defendants. Put simply, the Bankruptcy Code 
allows a Trustee to “avoid,” or, “claw back,” payments made to creditors prior to the 

bankruptcy filing, for the benefit of the estate, if the transfers were “fraudulent” within the 

455 B.R. 166, 170
 (8th Cir. BAP 2011). However, because of the proceedings’ 
interconnectedness, Judge Kishel presided over that bankruptcy, too. Id.; see also 
Stoebner v. Opportunity Finance, LLC, 
909 F.3d 219
 (8th Cir. 2018) (providing further 
background on Polaroid’s bankruptcy).                                     
meaning  of  applicable  state  “fraudulent  transfers”  law, here, the  Minnesota  Uniform 
Fraudulent Transfers Act (“MUFTA”). See In re Petters Co., Inc., 
495 B.R. at 892
 (citing 

11 U.S.C. §§ 544
(b) and 550(a)). MUFTA deems a transfer “fraudulent,” if either (A) the 
debtor “made the transfer . . . with actual intent to hinder, delay, or defraud any creditor of 
the debtor,” and the transferee cannot show that they accepted the transfer “in good faith 
and for a reasonably equivalent value,” see 
Minn. Stat. §§ 513.44
(a)(1) and 513.48(a) (the 
“actual fraud” theory); or (B) the debtor “made the transfer . . . without receiving a 
reasonably equivalent value in exchange for the transfer . . ., and the debtor (i) was engaged 

or was about to engage in a business or a transaction for which the remaining assets of the 
debtor were unreasonably small in relation to the business or transaction; or (ii) intended 
to incur, or believed or reasonably should have believed that the debtor would incur, debts 
beyond  the debtor’s ability to pay  as they  became due,” see 
id.
 § 513.44(a)(2) (the 
“constructive fraud” theory).                                             

    Although  fraudulent  transfer  law  usually  applies  to  “suspicious  midnight  hour 
transfers,” such as the Debtor who “sells” his friend his beach house on the eve of his 
bankruptcy filing, for virtually nothing in return, courts across the country have broadly 
applied fraudulent transfer law for the benefit of Ponzi Scheme victims, too. See, e.g., In 
re Petters Co., Inc., 
499 B.R. 342, 355-59
 (Bankr. D. Minn. 2013) (collecting cases). 

Consequently, in this  case, the  Trustee  sought to recover interest payments  made to 
investors/lenders like Defendants, on grounds that PCI made those “interest” payments to 
Defendants with an intent to defraud other creditors (i.e., PCI knowingly paid the interest 
with other investors’ money, rather than with revenue from the merchandise sales the loans 
were purportedly funding), and without receiving a “reasonably equivalent value” in return 
for the interest payments (i.e., the “loan” did not benefit PCI’s business, but, rather, 

“merely depleted [its] resources faster”). 
Id.
 at 357 (quoting Scholes v. Lehmann, 
56 F.3d 750, 757
 (7th Cir. 1995)); see also supra at 11-12 (noting PCI’s gradually increasing 
insolvency from 1996 through 2008).                                       
         2.  The Bankruptcy Court Denies the Trustee’s Summary Judgment  
           Motions En Masse, and Many “Petters Claw Back” Cases, Including 
           This One, Are Transferred to the District Court for Trial     

    Following a lengthy and complicated discovery process, which resulted in 
numerous published decisions from the Bankruptcy Court, this Court, and the Eighth 
Circuit Court of Appeals, the Trustee brought summary judgment motions against many 
private investors, including Defendants, based on the fraudulent transfer theory outlined 
above. The Bankruptcy Court10 entertained the first of these motions on March 5, 2018, 
in a case called Kelley v. Charap. (See Defs.’ Ex. A [Doc. No. 113-1] (“Mar. 5, 2018 
Bankr. Hr’g Tr.”).) The Bankruptcy Court denied the Trustee’s summary judgment 
motion from the bench, and then applied its oral ruling to the other at-issue “Petters claw 
black” adversary proceedings, including to the Trustee’s action against Defendants. (See 
Defs.’ Ex. C [Doc. No. 113-2] (“Mar. 20, 2018 Papadimos Summ. J. Ruling”).)  
    As best this Court can tell, the Bankruptcy Court reached this decision for two 

reasons. First, the Bankruptcy Court found that material disputes of fact existed as to 
whether PCI acted with fraudulent intent with respect to each individual transfer the 


10   At this point, Chief Bankruptcy Judge Kathleen H. Sanberg.           
Trustee sought to claw back (which, again, collectively totaled in the thousands). (See, 
e.g., Mar. 5, 2018 Bankr. Hr’g Tr. at 75-76.) Although the Bankruptcy Court 

acknowledged the testimony of Ms. Coleman that “all of” the security agreements and 
purchase orders at issue were fabricated or exaggerated, the Court found that, at least in 
the case of Charap, the defendant-investor had rebutted that presumption of fraud by 
testifying that “he [was] not told that the loans were tied to specific deals, [and] did not 
rely on specific statements that tied the loans to specific deals.” (Id. at 76; see also id. at 
67 (noting that Charap had “testified that he would give [PCI] the money and it could be 

used for any purpose”).) “There [were] no security agreements [with Charap],” the 
Bankruptcy Court added. (Id.)                                             
    Second, the Bankruptcy Court found that Martens’s expert testimony did not 
sufficiently detail whether Defendants’ money was used to finance legitimate 
merchandise transactions (as opposed to whether it was simply part of the “Ponzi 

churn”). (See id. at 77-78.) On this point, the Bankruptcy Court emphasized that, per 
Martens’s own analysis, other Petters’ companies “had legitimate business,” and that PCI 
transferred “over a billion dollars” to those companies during the relevant time period. 
(Id.; but cf. supra at 13-14 (noting that this activity amounted to only three percent of 
PCI’s total cash flow, and that Martens conducted an analysis with respect to these 

“intercompany” transfers).) Accordingly, the Bankruptcy Court reasoned, a reasonable 
juror could find that at least some of any individual investor’s funds may have flowed to 
legitimate, non-PCI transactions, and thus provided “reasonably equivalent value” to 
PCI.11                                                                    

    After reaching this decision, the Bankruptcy Court transferred many of the Petters 
claw back adversary proceedings before it to the District Court for trial (and/or further 
settlement negotiations). These cases were then distributed among the judges of the 
District.12                                                               
         3.  The Court Holds the First “Petters Claw Back” Jury Trial in Late 
           2018, in the Case of Kelley v. Boosalis; the Jury Rules for the Trustee 



11   Based on the Bankruptcy Court’s questioning, it also appears that, in divining the 
meaning of “value” in the Ponzi scheme context, the Court relied on a Colorado Court of 
Appeals decision holding that an (otherwise reasonable) loan to a firm engaged in a Ponzi 
Scheme could provide “reasonably equivalent value” to the firm based solely on the 
“time value of money.” (See, e.g., Bankr. Hr’g Tr. at 29.) However, a few months after 
the hearing, the Colorado Supreme Court overruled the Court of Appeals, and noted that 
the lower court’s understanding of “reasonably equivalent value” conflicted with “the 
majority view in the federal courts,” which focuses on whether an investor’s “profits” 
stemmed “from an actual business venture,” or whether they “merely” “deplet[ed] the 
debtor’s assets under the guise of a profitable business.” Lewis v. Taylor, 
427 P.3d 796, 800
 (Colo. 2018), rev’g, 
2017 WL 526122
 (Colo. Ct. App. 2017).            

12   As of May 20, 2019, it appears that five Petters claw back proceedings remain 
pending before the District Court (excluding this case and the Boosalis case discussed 
infra). Two of these cases, Kelley v. Charap and Kelley v. Johnson, are set for trial later 
this year. (See Kelley v. Charap, No. 18-cv-687 (DSD/DTS) (trial set for Sept. 17, 2019); 
Kelley v. Johnson, No. 18-cv-895 (DSD/DTS) (trial set for June 3, 2019).) The remaining 
three cases are not currently set for trial. (See Kelley v. Dovolis, No. 19-cv-501 
(DSD/SER); Kelley v. Westford Special Situations Master Fund, LP, No. 19-cv-1073 
(ECT); Kelley v. Hofer, No. 18-cv-853 (NEB/DTS).)                         
    Moreover, based on the parties’ briefing and the Court’s review of the docket, it 
appears that at least ten other Petters claw back proceedings remain pending before the 
Bankruptcy Court, and may ultimately be transferred to the District Court, too. (Compare 
Defs.’ Summ. J. Br. at 24 with Pl.’s Br. in Opp. to Summ. J. [Doc. No. 114] (“Pl.’s Opp. 
Br.”) at 16 n.7.)                                                         
    Between November 26 and December 4, 2018, the undersigned presided over the 
first (and, to date, only) Petters claw back trial, in the case of Kelley v. Boosalis. See No. 

18-cv-868 (SRN/TNL). Although the facts in that case differed in some ways from the facts 
here, the Trustee put on an affirmative case that largely mirrored what the Court set forth 
supra (albeit in a vastly more detailed fashion). For instance, Coleman provided factual 
testimony about PCI’s fraudulent intent, and Martens provided expert testimony about how 
each one of the at-issue transfers directly played into the “Ponzi churn.” The Trustee also 
put on four other witnesses, including an IRS agent, a PCI secretary, and a PCI tax 

accountant (the aforementioned James Wehmhoff). In his defense, Boosalis offered solely 
his own testimony.                                                        
    Most  importantly  for  present  purposes,  though,  in  the  days  before  closing 
arguments, the Court had to resolve a legal dispute as to what the jury instruction defining 
“reasonably equivalent value” should say. The Trustee offered the following instruction, 

which the Court found to be an accurate statement of Minnesota law:       
         Reasonably equivalent value may be found if the value Petters Company, 
         Inc. received from Mr. Boosalis in exchange for a payment was reasonably 
         equivalent to the value of the payment.                         

         Value may be reasonably equivalent where the payment made to the investor 
         satisfies a valid antecedent debt. Any payment above the amount of the 
         principal investment is not in satisfaction of a valid antecedent debt if it was 
         made in furtherance of a fraud, enabled by a fraud, or paid on dishonestly-
         incurred debt. If you find that an interest payment made by Petters Company, 
         Inc. to Mr. Boosalis was made in furtherance of a fraud, enabled by a fraud, 
         or paid on dishonestly-incurred debt, then that payment does not satisfy a 
         valid antecedent debt, and is not for reasonably equivalent value. 

         (See Boosalis Doc. No. 111 at 14.)                              
    Boosalis’s counsel objected to this instruction, on grounds that it both conflicted 
with a recent Minnesota Supreme Court decision called Finn v. Alliance Bank, 
860 N.W.2d 638
 (Minn. 2015), and misstated the law of contract enforceability more generally. (See 
Boosalis Doc. No. 101.) Rather, Boosalis argued, the Court should excise any mention of 
“fraud” from its instruction, and should instead simply instruct the jury that “[v]alue may 
be reasonably equivalent where the payment is made to satisfy an antecedent debt,” and 
that an “antecedent debt includes any legally enforceable right to payment against Petters 
Company, Inc.” (Id. at 19.)                                               

    The Court overruled Boosalis’s objection and maintained its original instruction. 
See Kelley v. Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6322631
 (D. Minn. Dec. 3, 2018); see also Boosalis Doc. 
No. 103. In its decision, the Court observed that, not only did Boosalis’s instruction leave 
the jury to resolve the legal question of what constituted a “legally enforceable right to 
payment,” but that, under Boosalis’s proposed instruction, interest paid directly out of a 

Ponzi scheme could always be for “reasonably equivalent value,” so long as it was received 
in good faith and in accordance with a facially legitimate contract. Because this reasoning 
lacked substantial legal support (including from the Finn decision, discussed infra), the 
Court  instead  concluded  that  the  jury  should  be  informed  that,  in  accordance  with 
prevailing legal standards, an interest payment received “in furtherance of a fraud, enabled 

by a fraud, or paid on dishonestly-incurred debt” did not constitute a “legally enforceable 
right to payment.” From that premise, the Court reasoned, the jury could find no “valid 
antecedent debt,” and, hence, no reasonably equivalent value, if it found that Boosalis’s 
interest payments were “directly connected” to PCI’s fraud. Id. at *4.    
    The jury returned a verdict in favor of the Trustee. (See Boosalis Doc. No. 116 
(verdict form).) Specifically, the jury found that the Trustee had proven by a preponderance 

of the evidence that PCI made interest payments to Boosalis with an “intent to defraud” its 
other creditors, and that Boosalis had not proven by a preponderance of the evidence that 
he had accepted any of his interest payments in “good faith” or “in exchange for a 
reasonably equivalent value.” (Id. (the “actual fraud” claim under MUFTA).) The jury also 
found that the Trustee had proven its “constructive fraud” claim by a preponderance of the 
evidence. (See supra at 16 (listing elements).)                           

    The jury accordingly awarded the Trustee $3,502,455 in damages, i.e., the interest 
that Boosalis had earned from his PCI loans. The Court later increased the Trustee’s award 
to $6,382,144.71, in accordance with Minnesota’s prejudgment interest statute. See Kelley 
v. Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6433161
, at *2-4 (D. Minn. Dec. 7, 2018) (granting the Trustee’s 
motion for prejudgment interest under 
Minn. Stat. § 549.09
); see also Boosalis Doc. No. 

117, 124.                                                                 
    Boosalis appealed this judgment to  the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals. (See 
Boosalis Doc. No. 128.) In his appeal, Boosalis primarily focuses on the “reasonably 
equivalent value” controversy noted above. (See Boosalis App. Br. at 26-43, App. Docket 
No. 19-1079 (filed Apr. 9, 2019).)13 The Eighth Circuit has yet to issue a decision on the 

matter.                                                                   


13   Boosalis also appealed this Court’s rulings as to the existence of a predicate 
creditor, the meaning of “good faith” under MUFTA, and the proprietary of awarding 
prejudgment interest.                                                     
         4.  In Light of Certain Rulings from the Boosalis Trial, Both Parties 
           Agree to File the Summary Judgment Motions at Issue Here      

    Defendants’ trial was scheduled to occur shortly after the conclusion of the Boosalis 
trial. (See Doc. No. 97.) However, in a mutually-agreed-upon attempt to resolve certain 
threshold legal questions that might render a trial unnecessary, and thereby save all sides 
time and money, the parties requested the opportunity to file dueling summary judgment 
motions in lieu of an immediate trial. (See Doc. No. 99.) The Court granted the parties’ 
request, and subsequently scheduled a summary judgment hearing. (See Doc. No. 101.)  
    The parties submitted full briefing on the matter shortly thereafter. (See Pl.’s Br. in 
Support of Summ. J. [Doc. No. 109] (“Pl.’s Summ. J. Br.”); Defs.’ Br. in Opp. to Pl.’s 
Summ. J. Mot. [Doc. No. 112] (“Defs.’ Opp. Br.”); Pl.’s Reply Br. [Doc. No. 116]; Defs.’ 

Summ. J. Br.; Pl.’s Opp. Br.; Defs.’ Reply Br. [Doc. No. 119].) The Court carefully 
considered the parties’ briefing, and then entertained a lengthy oral argument on March 8, 
2019. (See Doc. No. 123.)                                                 
 II.  DISCUSSION                                                         
    Summary judgment is proper if there are no disputed issues of material fact and the 

moving party is entitled to judgment as a matter of law. See Fed. R. Civ. P. 56(a). In 
considering whether to grant summary judgment, a court must not “weigh the evidence, make 
credibility determinations, or attempt to discern the truth of any factual issue.” Thomas v. 
Corwin, 
483 F.3d 516
, 526 (8th Cir. 2007). However, “in order to defeat a properly supported 
motion for summary judgment,” a party opposing summary judgment “must set forth specific 

facts showing that there is a genuine issue for trial,” Ingrassia v. Schafer, 
825 F.3d 891, 896
 
(8th Cir. 2016), and must not rely on “mere” “speculation” or “conjecture,” Holaway v. 
Stratasys, Inc., 
771 F.3d 1057, 1059
 (8th Cir. 2014). Further, it is well established that “Rule 

56 applies with equal force where the defendant resists summary judgment, especially where 
the defendant resists by asserting affirmative defenses which it has a burden to prove.” 
Midwest Oilseeds, Inc. v. Limagrain Genetics Corp., 
387 F.3d 705, 715
 (8th Cir. 2004); 
accord Residential Funding Co. v. Terrace Mortg. Co., 
850 F. Supp. 2d 961, 964-65
 (D. 
Minn. 2012).                                                              
    Here, the parties dispute three key issues: first, whether the Trustee is entitled to 

summary judgment as to “actual fraud” under MUFTA, second, whether either party is 
entitled to summary judgment on Defendants’ “reasonably equivalent value” defense to 
“actual fraud,” and, third, whether Defendants’ proposed questions about the meaning of 
“reasonably equivalent value” under MUFTA should be certified to the Minnesota Supreme 
Court. The Court will address each issue in turn.                         

 A. Actual Fraud                                                         
    1.  The Law                                                          
    Under MUFTA and federal bankruptcy law, a debtor’s pre-bankruptcy transfer is 
“fraudulent,” and, hence, subject to “claw back,” if, at the time of the transfer, the debtor 
“made the transfer . . . with actual intent to hinder, delay, or defraud any creditor of the 

debtor.” 
Minn. Stat. § 513.44
(a)(1) (emphasis added); accord 
11 U.S.C. § 544
(b). “Actual 
intent” can be shown in one of two ways.                                  
    First, it can be shown through “direct proof” of fraudulent intent. Citizens State Bank 
Norwood Young Am. v. Brown, 
849 N.W.2d 55, 60
 (Minn. 2014).               
    Second, it can be shown through “badges of fraud” that provide circumstantial 
evidence of fraudulent intent. Id.; accord Ritchie Capital Mgm’t, LLC v. Stoebner, 
779 F.3d 857, 861-62
 (8th Cir. 2015). Although MUFTA lists several specific “badges of 
fraud,” see 
Minn. Stat. § 513.44
(b), the list is not exclusive, and “[c]ourts may consider 
any factors they deem relevant to the issue of fraudulent intent,” Ritchie, 
779 F.3d at 863
; 
accord  Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 647
  (affirming  that  “the list  of  badges of fraud  is not 
exclusive”). If a party establishes “[t]he presence of several badges of fraud,” that party is 
entitled to “an inference of fraud that requires clear evidence of a legitimate purpose to 

rebut.” Citizens Bank, 
849 N.W.2d at 66
; accord Kelly v. Armstrong, 
141 F.3d 799
, 802-
03  (8th  Cir.  1998)  (reversing  district court  for failing  to  instruct  the jury as  to  this 
presumption). A party cannot rebut this inference merely by pointing to “legal formalities” 
accompanying their receipt of the at-issue money or property. New Horizon Enters., Inc. v. 
Contemporary Closet Design, Inc., 
570 N.W.2d 12, 15
 (Minn. Ct. App. 1997) (collecting 

citations).                                                               
    When “no genuine issue of material fact exists” with respect to fraudulent intent, a 
court may grant a party summary judgment on the issue. Citizens Bank, 
849 N.W.2d at 66
 
(granting creditor summary judgment on “actual fraud,” because it established fraudulent 
intent and the debtor “failed to rebut” that evidence); see also Ritchie, 
779 F.3d at 866
 

(same); Clarinda Color LLC v. BW Acquisition Corp., No. 00-cv-722 (JMR/FLN), 
2004 WL 2862298
, at *4 (D. Minn. June 14, 2004) (same).                        
    Importantly, until 2015, Minnesota courts would “conclusively” presume fraudulent 
intent with respect to any pre-bankruptcy transfer made “in furtherance of a Ponzi scheme,” 
so long as there was no dispute that a Ponzi scheme, in fact, existed. Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 647
. However, in the aforementioned Finn case, the Minnesota Supreme Court rejected 

this categorical “Ponzi scheme presumption,” and instead held that “fraudulent intent must 
be determined in light of the facts and circumstances of each case,” and on a “transfer-by-
transfer” basis. 
Id.
 In other words, “[t]he asset-by-asset and transfer-by-transfer nature of 
the inquiry under MUFTA requires a creditor to prove the elements of a fraudulent transfer 
with respect to each transfer, rather than relying on a presumption related to the form or 
structure of the entity making the transfer.” Id.14                       

    However, the Finn court took care to note that “a court could make a rational 
inference from the existence of a Ponzi scheme that a particular transfer was made with 
fraudulent intent,” and that its ruling only precluded a party from being “relieved . . . of its 
burden  of  proving—or  for  preventing  the  transferee  from  attempting  to  disprove—
fraudulent intent.” 
Id.
 (emphasis added). Indeed, following a thorough analysis of the Finn 

decision, Judge Kishel determined (in convincing manner) that a party in the Trustee’s 
position could prove fraudulent intent by (a) “plac[ing] the transfer he would have avoided, 
into a chain of successive investment transactions that involved similar acts of fraudulent 


14   This conclusion appeared to flow from the Supreme Court’s observation that 
Ponzi schemes can take “a multitude of different forms,” and that, consequently, “not 
every Ponzi scheme lacks a legitimate source of earnings.” 
Id. at 646, 652
; see also 
id. at 649
 (noting that “it is not hard to imagine a debtor that begins as a legitimate business 
and eventually turns to fraud,” or who has “assets or legitimate business operations aside 
from the Ponzi scheme”). For instance, in Finn, the at-issue debtor arguably lacked 
fraudulent intent when making at least one of the pre-bankruptcy interest payments 
sought to be clawed back, because the payments indisputably came from a legitimate 
business transaction, not from the “Ponzi churn.” See 
id. at 643, 655
.    
inducement by the Debtors, as to successive investors,” and, (b), showing “the successive 
misdirection of investors’ cash infusions toward the payment of earlier investments rather 

than the application to investment opportunities of the sort fraudulently represented.” In re 
Petters Co. Inc., 
550 B.R. 457, 481-82
 (Bankr. D. Minn. 2016); see also 
id. at 467-69
 
(providing close analysis of Finn on this issue).                         
    2.  Analysis                                                         
    The Trustee is entitled to summary judgment on this issue. This is so for three 
reasons. First, the Trustee has provided substantial “direct proof” of PCI’s intent to 

defraud, on a transfer-by-transfer basis, and in the manner contemplated by Judge Kishel. 
Second, under a “badges of fraud” analysis, the Trustee has also proven its entitlement to 
an inference of fraudulent intent. Third, Defendants have not set forth any evidence, 
beyond the speculative, from which a reasonable juror could rebut the Trustee’s proof of 
actual fraud.                                                             

    First, the testimony of Deanna Coleman directly shows that PCI intended to defraud 
its future (and current) creditors when it made the at-issue interest payments to Defendants. 
That is, Coleman’s testimony shows that, from 1994 through 2008, PCI intentionally lured 
investors to lend it money by promising “security interests” in merchandise that did not, in 
fact, exist, and then intentionally kept those investors coming back by paying them interest 

with other investors’ money (who similarly believed they were investing in “securitized” 
merchandise orders). (See supra at 8-10.) Because PCI applied this fraud scheme through 
thousands of promissory notes and security agreements, Coleman (understandably) could 
not testify as to PCI’s intent at the exact moment of each of the 100-some transfers at issue 
here.  However,  Coleman  has  testified  (repeatedly  and  consistently)  that  she  was 
responsible for drafting the promissory notes, security agreements, and purchase orders 

that undergirded each of the at-issue transfers, and that, from 1994 onwards, “every 
purchase order that [an] investor received or invested in was fake.” (Coleman Dep. I at 88 
(emphasis added).) Indeed, all of the security agreements in the record, from 1997 onwards, 
contain the same fraudulent misrepresentation that Coleman would make to Papadimos 
when she “called him up and asked for” a loan (id. at 193-94), namely, that PCI needed 
Papadimos’s (or his wife’s) money so that PCI could “acquire rights in or use of certain 

merchandise,” and then “resell [that merchandise] as part of [PCI’s] business.” (Supra at 
6-7; see also Papadimos Dep. I at 84 (noting that these purchase orders and security 
agreements constituted an “important factor” in encouraging him to invest with PCI).)  
    Moreover,  what  Coleman  asserts  on  a  general  basis,  Martens  (the  forensic 
accountant) confirms on a transfer-by-transfer basis. That is, as contemplated by Judge 

Kishel, Martens analyzed each transfer at issue here, and, in so doing, found that PCI did 
exactly  what  Coleman  claimed  it  did:  (a)  used  fraudulent  security  agreements  and 
promissory notes to “induce” Defendants to lend money; (b) “misdirected” Defendants’ 
“cash infusions toward the payment of earlier investments,” rather than to investments in 
real merchandise; and (c) paid Defendants’ interest with funds provided by “the successive 

misdirection” of subsequent investors’ cash, rather than from revenue realized as a result 
of real merchandise re-sales. (See supra at 12-14; accord In re Petters Co. Inc., 
550 B.R. at 481-82
.) This is, simply put, an overwhelming showing of direct fraudulent intent.15 

    Second, to the extent PCI’s intent with respect to any particular interest payment to 
Defendants is unclear, a “badges of fraud” analysis further buttresses Coleman’s account, 
and Martens’s accounting. Specifically, the Court finds that three, glaring “badges of 
fraud” accompanied the at-issue transfers, and that, when viewed in conjunction with the 
“direct” evidence outlined above, entitle the Trustee to “an inference of fraud” with respect 
to each of those transfers. Citizens Bank, 
849 N.W.2d at 66
.              

    First,  in  light  of  Coleman  and  White’s  guilty  pleas,  and  Petters’s  conviction 
following  a  month-long  trial,  there  can be no  serious  dispute  that  PCI  was,  in  fact, 
conducting a Ponzi scheme at the time of the transfers, with the goal of defrauding 
investors. (See supra at 10; accord Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 654
 (noting that being convicted 
of “operat[ing] a Ponzi scheme to defraud” investors could constitute a “badge of fraud”).)  

    Second, in light of Martens’s thorough insolvency report, there can also be no 
serious dispute that PCI was insolvent at least six months before Papadimos first lent PCI 
money in 1997, and that PCI fell deeper and deeper into insolvency as Defendants lent 
more  and  more  money  to  the  company.  (See  supra  at  11-12;  accord  
Minn. Stat. § 15
    In fact, in neither their opposition brief nor at oral argument did Defendants attempt 
to rebut any of this direct evidence, other than to cursorily suggest that a jury might not 
believe Coleman or Martens’s testimony. (See, e.g., Mar. 8, 2019 Hr’g Tr. at 47 (noting that 
Coleman is a “convicted” “fraudster”).) Under the circumstances, this kind of vague 
credibility argument is not enough to create a “genuine” dispute of material fact.  Ingrassia, 
825 F.3d at 896
; cf. supra at 18 (noting that the Bankruptcy Court denied summary 
judgment when a defendant-investor had pointed to specific record testimony that could be 
construed as contradicting the Trustee’s evidence of fraudulent intent).  
513.44(b)(9) (whether “the debtor was insolvent or became insolvent shortly after the 
transfer was made or the obligation was incurred” is indicative of actual intent to defraud); 

Ritchie, 
779 F.3d at 865
 (same, and describing “insolvency” as “among the more common 
badges of fraudulent intent”).)16                                         
    Third, the undisputed evidence shows that, at the time of the interest payments, 
PCI’s leaders were actively working to conceal critical information about the payments, 
and about PCI’s finances more generally, from their outside creditors. (See supra at 10-11; 
accord In re Bayou Grp. LLC, 
362 B.R. 624, 634
 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 2007) (describing the 

“intentional[] disseminat[ion] [of] false financial statements and performance reports” as a 
“badge of fraud”); cf. 
Minn. Stat. § 513.44
(b)(9) (whether “the transfer or obligation was 
disclosed or concealed” indicative of actual intent to defraud).17        


16   Martens’s analysis accords with Finn’s holding that insolvency cannot be 
presumed merely by the existence of a Ponzi scheme. See Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 648-49
. 
Martens’s conclusions, as set forth in his expert report, are backed by evidence, not 
supposition. Indeed, Defendants do not dispute Martens’s analysis in any substantial way. 
(See Defs.’ Opp. Br. at 5-6.) Rather, Defendants simply rely on the unadorned assertion 
that Martens’s analysis must be discounted because “Martens did not conduct a transfer 
by transfer based insolvency analysis.” (Id. at 6.) However, as Judge Kishel explained in 
his opinion analyzing Finn, such an analysis is not required under the circumstances. 
Compare In re Petters Co. Inc., 
550 B.R. at 470
 (“If the Trustee’s forensic reconstruction 
for the history of individual Debtor-transferors shows that they slipped into balance-sheet 
insolvency . . . at a specific point in history and never emerged to solvency, that will be 
enough [to show insolvency for fraudulent transfer purposes].”) (emphasis added) with 
supra at 11-12 (showing that PCI “slipped into balance-sheet insolvency” by December 
31, 1996 and “never emerged to solvency” thereafter).                     

17   The Court acknowledges that, in the standard issue fraudulent conveyance action, 
the transfer itself is being “concealed” from other creditors, and that that was not the case 
here. (See Defs.’ Opp. Br. at 6-7 (noting that “many of the transfers were recorded with 
the Secretary of State of Minnesota by way of UCC filings”).) However, given the 
flexibility of the “badges of fraud” analysis, the Court nonetheless finds that PCI’s 
    In sum, these three, essentially undisputed, badges of fraud (along with the direct 
evidence outlined above) provide compelling circumstantial evidence that PCI “made the 

transfer[s] . . . with actual intent to . . . defraud” its other creditors, i.e., “present investors 
who were induced to continue their investments [with PCI] and prospective investors 
which the principals of [PCI] hoped to and did induce to invest in [PCI] in the future.” In 
re Bayou Grp., 362 B.R at 634 (emphasis added). As such, the Trustee is entitled to “an 
inference of fraud” with respect to each of the at-issue transfers. Citizens Bank, 
849 N.W.2d at 66
                                                                     

    Third,  and  finally,  Defendants  have  provided  no  evidence,  much  less  “clear 
evidence,” that PCI had a “legitimate,” non-fraudulent “purpose” in making any of the at-
issue interest payments to them. Citizens Bank, 
849 N.W.2d at 66
. As noted above, the 
overwhelming evidence in this case shows that Defendants were intentionally repaid with 
other investors’ money, not with proceeds from actual merchandise sales or with revenue 

from other, “legitimate” Petters ventures. Compare with Stoebner v. Opportunity Finance, 
LLC, 
909 F.3d 219, 226
 (8th Cir. 2018) (in a claw-back case involving pre-bankruptcy 
interest payments made by Petters Consumer Brands (“PCB”), one of Petters’s “legitimate” 
companies, finding no “fraudulent intent” on PCB’s part because the trustee’s complaint 
affirmatively conceded that PCB “repa[id] the loans through the proceeds of ‘real life’ 

transactions”). Although Defendants vaguely suggest that they might have been repaid with 
“legitimate business income,” based on the (relatively small) transfers between PCI and 

widespread concealment of important financial information constitutes a compelling 
“badge of fraud.”                                                         
other Petters’s entities, they offer no concrete evidence in support of this claim, and do not 
even  acknowledge  that  Martens  conducted  a  thorough  analysis  on  this  very  issue. 

(Compare Defs.’ Opp. Br. at 12-14 with supra at 13-14.) In other words, Defendants’ case 
against a finding of fraudulent intent consists entirely of a case against Martens, and 
Defendants’ case against Martens consists entirely of “speculation,” “conjecture,” and 
“attorney argument.” That is not enough to send this issue to a jury. See Holaway, 
771 F.3d at 1059
; see also Wittenburg v. Am. Express Fin. Advisors, Inc., 
464 F.3d 831, 838
 (8th Cir. 
2006) (“[A]rguments of counsel are not evidence.”).                       

    The  Court  emphasizes  that  it  reaches  this  conclusion  without  considering  the 
credibility of either Coleman or Martens, see Thomas, 483 F.3d at 526, and without relying 
on a “Ponzi scheme presumption,” see Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 647
. Rather, the Court has 
examined the evidentiary record, and has determined that, even  when all reasonable 
inferences are drawn in Defendants’ favor, there is simply no evidence, much less the kind 

of “transfer-specific” evidence contemplated by Finn, from which a reasonable jury could 
find in Defendants’ favor on the issue of fraudulent intent. Compare with Finn v. Moyes, 
No.  14-cv-1293  (JRT/TNL),  
2017 WL 1194192
,  at  *13  (D.  Minn.  Mar.  30,  2017) 
(determining that dispute existed as to the “legitimacy” of a particular at-issue transfer 
because  Defendants  provided  evidence  that  that  transfer  was  part  of  a  “settlement 

agreement,” rather than part of an underlying fraudulent scheme).         
    For these reasons, the Court finds that, with respect to each at-issue, pre-bankruptcy 
transfer from PCI to Defendants, the Trustee is entitled to summary judgment as to “actual 
fraud.”18                                                                 

 B. Reasonably Equivalent Value Defense                                  
    In light of this ruling on “actual fraud,” the question now becomes whether a 
reasonable juror could find that Defendants have met their burden of proving that any of 
their loans provided PCI with a “value” “reasonably equivalent” to the interest payments 
they received in exchange for the loan. See 
Minn. Stat. § 513.48
(a).19    

    1.  The Law                                                          
    Before analyzing what evidence Defendants have offered in support of their 
burden, the Court must first address the threshold legal question of what constitutes 
“reasonably equivalent value” under MUFTA. As in Boosalis, this question lies at the 
heart of the parties’ dispute.                                            

    The Court begins by noting four principles that all parties agree upon.  




18   It is undisputed that the Trustee has identified a “predicate creditor” under 
11 U.S.C. § 544
(b). See In re Marlar, 
267 F.3d 749, 753
 (8th Cir. 2001) (“To exercise her § 
544(b)(1) avoidance power, the trustee must show that the transfer is voidable under state 
law by at least one unsecured creditor of the bankruptcy estate with an allowable 
claim.”). As the Trustee’s brief explains, that “predicate creditor” is Interlachen Harriet 
Investments Limited. (See Pl.’s Summ. J. Br. at 19-21.)                   

19   The Trustee has stipulated, for purposes of this motion, that Defendants transacted 
with PCI “in good faith,” and could thus prove the other element of the statutory defense 
to “actual fraud.” (See Pl.’s Summ. J. Br. at 27.)                        
    First, under Minnesota law, “[v]alue is given for a transfer or an obligation if, in 
exchange for the transfer or obligation . . . an antecedent debt is . . . satisfied.” 
Minn. Stat. § 513.43
(a) (emphasis added).                                       
    Second, in the usual course of business, repaying a loan, or “antecedent debt,” at a 
reasonable interest rate, prior to a bankruptcy, provides value to the payee because it 
eliminates a debt for which the payee (or their successors) otherwise would have been 
liable. See, e.g., In re Duke & King Acquisition Corp., 
508 B.R. 107, 146
 (Bankr. D. 
Minn. 2014) (Kishel, C.J.,) (noting that, when there is “no allegation” of “fraud” or 

“collusion,” “courts uniformly recognize that reduction of preexisting debt, dollar-for-
dollar in proportion to the amount of payment, gives a reasonable equivalence to the 
transfer; and hence the payment is sheltered from avoidance”). This is so even if the 
business is re-paying that loan while it is in financial distress, and its repayment 
preferences one creditor at the expense of others. See, e.g., B.E.L.T., Inc. v. Wachovia 

Corp., 
403 F.3d 474
 (7th Cir. 2005) (emphasizing that, absent evidence of a Debtor’s 
fraudulent intent, a satisfied lender who “loaned money to [the Debtor] at the market 
price, in the ordinary course of its business . . . is presumptively entitled to keep the 
repayment”).                                                              
    Third, however, in the specific context of a Ponzi scheme, there is a long line of 

federal bankruptcy cases (most of which interpret materially identical state fraudulent 
transfer statutes) holding that the “interest,” or “profits,” received by a party directly 
investing into a Ponzi scheme are not in exchange for “value,” much less “reasonably 
equivalent value.” See, e.g., Perkins v. Haines, 
661 F.3d 623
 (11th Cir. 2011); Donell v. 
Kowell, 
533 F.3d 762, 770
 (9th Cir. 2008); Sender v. Buchanan (In re Hedged–
Investments, Assoc., Inc.), 
84 F.3d 1286, 1290
 (10th Cir. 1996); Scholes v. Lehmann, 
56 F.3d 750
, 757–58 (7th Cir. 1995); In re Consolidated Meridian Funds, 
487 B.R. 263
 
(Bankr. W.D. Wash. 2013); In re Madoff Inv. Secs. LLC, 
454 B.R. 317
 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 
2011); In re Indep. Clearing House Co., 
77 B.R. 843, 858
 (Bankr. D. Utah 1987); cf. 
Lewis v. Taylor, 
427 P.3d 796, 801-02, n.4
 (Colo. 2018) (agreeing with this case law for 
purposes of “equity-based Ponzi schemes,” but declining to reach a ruling with respect to 
“fixed-income Ponzi schemes,” like the one at issue here). This is so, these courts hold, 

because the Ponzi scheme operator is not simply paying back a business debt that it 
otherwise would have been liable for (which would benefit the corporation). Rather, the 
operator is conferring “profits” on an investor with other investors’ money (not legitimate 
business revenue), in a scheme that inevitably results in the last set of investors losing all 
of their money and then discovering that those earlier “investments” financed no tangible 

assets from which they could collect payment. See Donell, 
533 F.3d at 770
 (“[P]rofits 
gained through theft from later investors are not a reasonably equivalent exchange for the 
winning investor’s initial investment.”); Scholes, 
56 F.3d at 757
 (“The paying out of 
profits to [a defendant investor] not offset by further investments by him conferred no 
benefit on the [Debtor] but merely depleted [its] resources faster.”). As such, these courts 

have reasoned, although a “winning” investor is entitled to keep their principal 
investment into a Ponzi scheme (because they have a right to receive what they initially 
put into the scheme, as a matter of restitution), this entitlement does not extend to 
“profits” (in an equity-based Ponzi scheme) or “interest payments” (in a fixed-income 
Ponzi scheme).20                                                          

    Fourth, prior principle notwithstanding, under MUFTA, a Ponzi scheme 
operator’s repayment of a loan (with interest) “can constitute reasonably equivalent 
value,” if that “antecedent debt” was repaid pursuant to a “legally enforceable” contract 
against the scheme’s operator. Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 650-51
 (emphasis added). 
Specifically, Finn held, based on the facts before it, a party that loans money to a Ponzi 
scheme operator acted pursuant to a “legally enforceable” contract, and hence provided 

“reasonably equivalent value,” if their loan was for a reasonable interest rate, financed an 
“actual” business transaction, and was then repaid with “real” money flowing from that 
transaction. 
Id. at 652, 655-56
; see also supra n.14. In other words, Finn ruled, there is no 
presumption under MUFTA that every lending contract entered into with a Ponzi scheme 
operator is invalid, and hence unable to provide “reasonably equivalent value” to the 

operator. See Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 655
 (“Because we have already rejected a rule 
requiring us to invalidate all contracts made with a Ponzi-scheme operator, and the 
Receiver essentially provides no reason to invalidate the [at-issue lending contract] other 
than the fact it was a part of a greater Ponzi scheme, we conclude that the satisfaction of 


20   Although not relevant here, the Court notes that this theory of liability focuses on 
individuals who invest into the Ponzi churn itself; it may not apply to parties who provide 
“consumable goods or services” to a Ponzi scheme operator prior to their bankruptcy. 
See, e.g., Janvey v. Golf Channel, Inc., 
487 S.W.3d 560, 575, 581-82
 (Tex. 2016) 
(holding that, although millions of dollars of payments from Ponzi scheme operator to the 
Golf Channel for advertising time might have helped further the Ponzi scheme, the 
payments were in exchange for “reasonably equivalent value,” i.e., “advertising 
services,” and were therefore not subject to claw back).                  
[the lender’s] antecedent debt constituted ‘value’ under MUFTA.”) (emphasis added); cf. 
id. at 649
 (noting that “it is not hard to imagine a debtor that begins as a legitimate 

business and eventually turns to fraud,” or who has “assets or legitimate business 
operations aside from the Ponzi scheme”).                                 
    Disagreement arises, however, as to how one should interpret these four 
principles. In the Trustee’s view (which this Court adopted in Boosalis), these four 
principles stand for the proposition that not “all contracts between a Ponzi scheme 
operator and an investor are unenforceable as a matter of public policy, as [that] would 

deprive the investor of an opportunity to prove that its contract was outside the Ponzi 
scheme and therefore legally enforceable.” (Pl.’s Reply Br. at 8; accord Kelley v. 
Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6322631
, at *2-3).) But, the Trustee continues, if the evidence 
definitively shows that a lending contract was “in furtherance of” the “fraudulent” Ponzi 
churn, that contract is not enforceable, under either Finn or the longstanding federal 

bankruptcy case law cited above. (See Pl.’s Summ. J. Br. at 27-28.) In other words, the 
Trustee argues, Finn did not outright reject the prior law concerning the unenforceability 
of Ponzi scheme “profits.” Rather, Finn merely sought to limit any “presumptions” 
arising out of that case law, so as to align Ponzi scheme claw back cases with MUFTA’s 
individualized, “transfer by transfer” mode of analysis, and with MUFTA’s focus on 

combating “fraudulent” transfers, rather than mere “preferences” to “bona fide” creditors. 
See Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 647
; see also 
id. at 653
 (“MUFTA does not prohibit a debtor 
from making a preferential transfer in favor of one bona fide creditor over another, so 
long as the transfer is not fraudulent.”) (emphasis added). What’s more, the Trustee adds, 
because “interest payments” arising out of a Ponzi churn “aim to deceive a third party,” 
i.e., other investors, the payments are also unenforceable as a matter of black letter 

contract law. (See, e.g., Pl.’s Opp. Br. at 8-9 (collecting cases finding a contract “void” 
because it “ha[d] for its object the practice of deception upon a third party”); Kelley v. 
Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6322631
, at *4 (same); cf. Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 651
 (“[A]ny legally 
enforceable right to payment against the debtor is sufficient to qualify as an antecedent 
debt under MUFTA.”) (emphasis added).)                                    
    Defendants disagree with this interpretation. In their view, Finn did reject the prior 

case law concerning the unenforceability of Ponzi scheme “profits,” and that this Court 
was wrong to assume otherwise in Boosalis. (See, e.g., Defs.’ Summ. J. Br. at 11, 14.) 
Instead, Defendants argue, Finn stands for the proposition that any interest payments 
received from a Ponzi scheme operator are in exchange for “reasonably equivalent 
value,” so long as the payments are pursuant to reasonable interest rates and in 

accordance with a facially legitimate promissory note, just as the payments would be in 
the non-Ponzi scheme context. (Id.; see also In re Carrozzella & Richardson, 
286 B.R. 480
 (D. Conn. 2002) (adopting this argument, in direct contravention of the majority 
view of federal courts); In re Unified Commercial Capital, 
160 B.R. 343
 (Bankr. 
W.D.N.Y. 2001) (same).) Moreover, Defendants contend, so long as there is no 

allegation that a lender knowingly participated in the Ponzi scheme, lending contracts 
with a Ponzi scheme operator are enforceable as a matter of black letter contract law, and 
hence provide “reasonably equivalent value” under the reasoning of Finn. (See Defs.’ 
Summ. J. Br. at 10-14; Defs.’ Reply Br. at 5-8.) This is so, the argument goes, because, as 
a general matter, a contract between an innocent party and a criminal counterparty is 
enforceable against the counterparty even if the counterparty uses the contract for an 

illegal purpose. (Id. (citing, e.g., Anheuser-Busch Brewing Assn. v. Mason, 
46 N.W. 558, 558
 (Minn. 1890) (upholding beer salesman’s contract to sell beer to owner of an (illegal) 
brothel, and noting that a contract is “not void simply because there is something 
immoral or illegal in its surroundings or connections”).) In other words, Defendants 
assert, if an innocent investor “had sought to enforce their Notes against” the Ponzi 
scheme operator prior to the bankruptcy proceeding, the scheme operator could not have 

argued that “its own illegal use of funds loaned by [the innocent investor] rendered the 
Notes invalid.” (Defs.’ Reply Br. at 7 (citing, e.g., Eagle Roller-Mill Co. v. Dillman, 
69 N.W. 910, 911
 (Minn. 1897) (holding that a contract is not void if the alleged “illegal 
act” that the contract was connected to did “not form any link in plaintiff’s chain of title 
to [the property] or the money, or constitute any part of its cause of action”).)  

    After careful consideration of Defendants’ arguments and cited legal authority, the 
Court re-affirms its position, and declines to reconsider its Order (and accompanying jury 
instruction) from Boosalis. See generally Kelley v. Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6322631
. As such, 
rather than repeat what it said in that Order, the Court will simply address the two key 
counterarguments raised by Defendants in their briefing here, and will explain why it 

finds neither of those arguments availing.                                
    First, the Court cannot agree that Finn “rejected” the logic of the prior federal 
bankruptcy case law in toto. (See, e.g., Defs’ Reply Br. at 3-4 (arguing that Finn 
“rejected” the Seventh Circuit’s decision in Scholes v. Lehmann).) It is true, of course, 
that the Finn court found that some of those decisions went too far in “presuming” the 
key elements of a fraudulent transfer claim based solely on the fact that a party gave 

money to a Ponzi scheme operator, and in holding that “equality of distribution” 
constituted the sine qua non of state fraudulent transfer statutes. See, e.g., Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 652
 (noting that “equality among a debtor’s creditors, even if they are victims 
of a Ponzi scheme, is not the purpose of MUFTA,” rather, “it is to ‘prevent debtors from 
putting property which is available for the payment of their debts beyond the reach of 
their creditors’”) (quoting In re Butler, 
552 N.W.2d 226, 232
 (Minn. 1996)).  

    However, as Judge Kishel observed, following an exhaustive examination of Finn 
and all of the case law upon which Finn relied, “Finn . . . gives no reason to deny the 
continuing vitality of Scholes v. Lehmann,” and the other, equity-driven federal 
bankruptcy case law cited above, especially with respect to payments made “in the thick 
of a Ponzi scheme.” In re Petters Co., Inc., 
550 B.R. at 481
. This is so because “however 

much [Finn] jibes at several of the foundational principles of [the federal bankruptcy] 
analysis . . . Finn does so only in the service of one end: rejecting the Ponzi scheme 
presumption as to reasonably equivalent value,” and, perhaps more importantly, “only in 
a case brought on facts where a finding of reasonably equivalent value would have been 
amply supported outside of the context of receivership or bankruptcy.” 
Id.
 In other words, 

“Finn says nothing about the alternative situation in the thick of a Ponzi scheme.” 
Id.
 
Moreover, Judge Kishel noted, all of the Minnesota case law Finn cited in support of the 
notion that a pre-bankruptcy transfer provides value if it “satisif[ies] some kind of 
legitimate preexisting debt” consistently “excluded” transfers made through “intentional 
wrongdoing, dishonesty or fraud of some sort.” 
Id. at 473
 (collecting citations). As such, 
Judge Kishel concluded, “[t]here is still a viable theory for an equitable override that 

denies value to the interest component of repayment on debt owing by the perpetrator of 
a Ponzi scheme, incurred in transactions in the main sequential operation of the scheme, 
in an action for avoidance under MUFTA.” 
Id. at 481
.                      
    The Court concurs in this assessment, as it implicitly did in Boosalis, and therefore 
finds that the federal bankruptcy law cited above remains persuasive in the present 
context, as do their holdings concerning the unenforceability of “profits,” or “interest,” 

paid directly out of a “Ponzi churn.”21                                   
    Second, the Court also disagrees that, as a matter of black letter contract law, a 
lender has a “legally enforceable” right to receive interest paid out of a Ponzi scheme, 
simply because they did not knowingly participate in the Ponzi scheme themselves. Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 651
. As the Court explained in its Boosalis order, “a contract that aims to 

deceive a third party is void” as against public policy, and, in a Ponzi scheme, contractual 


21   What’s more, Finn in no way suggested that it was adopting the minority federal 
court view, in which interest payments made pursuant to a Ponzi scheme are enforceable, 
and hence not subject to claw back, so long as the payments were made pursuant to a 
facially legitimate promissory note, and at a reasonable interest rate. (See supra at 38 
(citing In re Carrozzella & Richardson and In re Unified Commercial Capital).) Not only 
are these cases clear “outliers” among judicial authorities, see, e.g., Silverman v. Cullin, 
633 Fed. App’x 16, 17 (2d Cir. 2016) (describing these two cases as “outliers”), but the 
Court finds that adopting this position would effectively create a conclusive presumption 
against creditors (or bankruptcy trustees) trying to “claw back” interest payments made 
out of a “fixed-income Ponzi scheme,” no matter how directly connected those 
payments/promissory notes were to a fraud. Such a “presumption” would no more accord 
with Finn than the countervailing “Ponzi scheme presumption” the Minnesota Supreme 
Court rejected.                                                           
payments of interest to an investor (with other investors’ money) plainly “aim to deceive 
a third party,” i.e., those other investors whose money is being misused. Kelley v. 

Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6322631
, at *4. Although Defendants correctly note that the cases the 
Court cited in its Boosalis Order involved contracts between two parties jointly aiming to 
deceive a third party (see Defs.’ Opp. Br. at 10-11), the Court declines to imply a strict 
mens rea requirement from that case law, as the “void against public policy” doctrine is 
not dictated by enumerated, categorical criteria. Rather, the Minnesota Supreme Court 
has held that a contract is void against public policy if “it is injurious to the interests of 

the public or contravenes some established interest of society,” or if “illegality has so 
tainted the contract that enforcing the contract would be against public policy.” Isle 
Wellness, Inc. v. Progressive N. Ins. Co., 
725 N.W.2d 90, 93
 (Minn. 2006) (cleaned up).  
    Applying these broad principles, then, and in light of the longstanding federal 
bankruptcy case law discussed above, the Court can only conclude that an investor who 

profits from a Ponzi scheme, even if an “unwitting accomplice” to fraud against a third 
party, does not have a contractual right to keep interest payments made as a direct result 
of that illegal scheme. See Scholes, 56 F.3d at (noting that an investor who profits from a 
Ponzi scheme has no “moral claim to keep his profit” because he was an “unwitting 
accomplice” in keeping the fraud “going longer,” so as to increase “the losses to the 

[other] investors”); cf. Zayed v. Buysee, No. 11-cv-1042 (SRN/FLN), 
2012 WL 12893882
, at *37 (D. Minn. Sept. 27, 2012) (holding, in the unjust enrichment context, 
that lending contracts with a Ponzi scheme operator were “void” because “they were 
procured by fraud and perpetuated a fraud”).                              
    Admittedly, the Court is reluctant to find promissory notes void, even partially, on 
this “public policy” basis, as “a court’s power to declare a contract void for being in 

contravention of public policy is a very delicate and unrefined power,” and “should only 
be exercised in cases free from doubt.” Katun Corp. v. Clarke, 
484 F.3d 972, 976
 (8th 
Cir. 2007) (citing Hollister v. Ulvi, 
271 N.W. 493, 498-99
 (Minn. 1937)). However, 
under the unique circumstances presented by a proven Ponzi scheme, the Court finds that 
Minnesota law requires the “freedom of contract” to give way to a “principle which is of 
even greater importance to the general public,” namely, the disgorgement of “profits” 

directly procured through fraud, deception, and other illegal conduct. See Lyon Fin. 
Servs., Inc. v. Ill. Paper & Copier Co., 
848 N.W.2d 539, 545
 (Minn. 2014) (observing that 
“Minnesota public policy favors the freedom to contract,” “except . . . when the particular 
contract violates some principle which is of even greater importance to the general public”) 
(emphasis added) (cleaned up).                                            

    Defendants’ cited cases do not convince the Court that it must conclude otherwise. 
All of Defendants’ cases involved fact patterns in which the at-issue contract was only 
tangentially connected to illegal or fraudulent behavior, or where a party’s claim to 
payment could be asserted without any reference to illegal activity. See, e.g., Booshard v. 
Steele Cty., 
217 N.W. 354, 354
 (Minn. 1927) (holding that, although defendant attempted 

to defend against plaintiff’s right to payment by arguing that plaintiff had forfeited that 
right through an (admittedly illegal) “side agreement,” plaintiff could still recover 
because he established liability completely “independent of the illegal contract”); 
Disbrow v. Creamery Package Mfg. Co., 
125 N.W. 115, 118-19
 (Minn. 1910) (finding 
that, although plaintiff and defendant had conspired to “fraudulently obtain” patents on 
some occasions, a court could still enforce an earlier, “perfectly valid agreement” 

between the parties because the earlier contract was “not dependent upon an illegal or 
unlawful transaction”); Eagle Roller-Mill, 
69 N.W. at 911-12
 (holding that defendant-
employee could not defend against his breach of a “perfectly valid” employment contract 
(the embezzlement of grain from the plaintiff-employer) by pointing to unrelated illegal 
activity by the plaintiff-employer, because that illegal activity in no way affected the 
employer’s “chain of title to the grain”); Anheuser-Busch, 46 N.W.2d at 558 (holding that 

court would enforce sale of beer from retailer to owner of (illegal) brothel, because the 
sale of “proper article[s] of merchandise in a legitimate way” to an illegal enterprise 
“merely . . . tend[ed] to promote illegal or immoral purposes,” and in no other way 
connected the retailer “with any violation of the law”).                  
    In a “Ponzi churn” case, by contrast, the Ponzi scheme operator’s “performance” 

of their end of a “lending contract” only occurs because they steal money from other 
investors, by way of fraudulent inducement, which, in turn, encourages the counterparty 
to the contract (and others) to continue contributing money to the illegal scheme. Such a 
“lending contract” does not “merely . . . tend to promote illegal or immoral purposes,” it 
is what makes a Ponzi scheme “illegal” and ‘immoral” in the first place. Id. (emphasis 

added).                                                                   
    For these reasons, the Court finds that the correct legal interpretation of 
“reasonably equivalent value” is the jury instruction it gave in Boosalis. And, there, it 
instructed the jury that “[v]alue may be reasonably equivalent where the payment made 
to the investor satisfies a valid antecedent debt,” but that “any payment above the amount 
of the principal investment is not in satisfaction of a valid antecedent debt if it was made 

in furtherance of a fraud, enabled by a fraud, or paid on dishonestly-incurred debt.” 
(Boosalis Doc. No. 111 at 14.)                                            
    2.  Analysis                                                         
    With the legal question settled, the application of law to fact in this case becomes 
relatively straightforward. That is, just as Defendants failed to adduce evidence showing 
that PCI might have had a “legitimate” intent with respect to some of the at-issue interest 

payments (see supra at 31-33), Defendants failed to adduce evidence showing that any 
one of their interest payments was not “made in furtherance of a fraud, enabled by fraud, 
or paid on dishonestly-incurred debt,” (Boosalis Doc. No. 111 at 14). Accordingly, 
Defendants’ interest payments were not “in satisfaction of a valid antecedent debt,” and 
did not provide “reasonably equivalent value” to PCI. (Id.)               

    Admittedly, Defendants did submit some expert testimony suggesting that the 
interest rates on their loans were “reasonable,” given the “high risk” of “this type of 
financing.” (Defs.’ Summ. J. Br. at 6-7 (describing testimony of Matthew Polsky).) The 
Trustee did not address this evidence in its briefing in any substantial manner. However, 
the Court finds that, because Defendants failed to show that their promissory notes were 

in exchange for non-fraudulent business purposes, the Court need not consider the 
reasonableness of the interest rate attached to the notes.                
    The Court also acknowledges that, were there evidence that Defendants’ 
“promissory notes” were intended to function as “general business loans” to PCI, this 
case might present a closer call on “reasonably equivalent value.” In that scenario, a 
lender could perhaps argue that interest payments on their loans were in exchange for 

“value,” in the sense that the loans were intended to be spent on employee salaries and 
building rent and the like, and were therefore not “directly connected” to a Ponzi scheme 
operator’s fraud. See Kelley v. Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6322631
, at *4 (distinguishing 
between “promissory notes . . . tangentially connected to the fraud” and those “directly 
connected to it”). However, this is not such a case. As detailed above, the vast majority of 
Defendants’ promissory notes were executed in connection with indisputably fraudulent 

security agreements and purchase orders (see supra at 6-7), and were not, in any way, 
connected to “real” diverting activity. Cf. Finn, 
860 N.W.2d at 652
 (“[T]here is [] no 
dispute that the banks in this case purchased non-oversold participation interests 
in actual loans to real borrowers, which provided [the Ponzi scheme operator] with a 
legitimate source of earnings with which to pay the banks.”). Consequently, any further 

refining of the law, with respect to the meaning of “reasonably equivalent value” in the 
lending context, will await another day, when more nuanced fact patterns emerge than the 
one at issue here.                                                        
    Finally, the Court acknowledges that the Bankruptcy Court denied the Trustee 
summary judgment on the question of “reasonably equivalent value” earlier in this 

litigation. (See supra at 18-19.) Upon close examination of the Bankruptcy Court’s 
reasoning, though, it appears that the Bankruptcy Court took this action because it found 
that the Trustee had failed to meet its burden on the issue, as is the case in the 
“constructive fraud” context. (See, e.g., Mar. 5, 2018 Bankr. Hr’g Tr. at 78.) Because this 
Court, unlike the Bankruptcy Court, has found that the Trustee is entitled to summary 
judgment on “actual fraud,” and that therefore it is Defendants’ burden to prove 

“reasonably equivalent value,” the Court finds this case distinguishable from that earlier 
decision. See Residential Funding Co., 
850 F. Supp. 2d at 965
 (emphasizing that “one 
who relies upon an affirmative defense to defeat an otherwise meritorious motion for 
summary judgment must adduce evidence which, viewed in the light most favorable to 
and drawing all reasonable inferences in favor of the non-moving party, would permit 
judgment for the non-moving party on the basis of that defense”) (emphasis added) 

(cleaned up).                                                             
    For these reasons, the Court grants the Trustee summary judgment as to Defendants’ 
affirmative defense of “reasonably equivalent value.”                     
 C. Certification                                                        
    Defendants next argue that, in the alternative, this Court should certify the following 

two “unsettled” legal questions to the Minnesota Supreme Court, in lieu of a definitive 
ruling on “reasonably equivalent value” here:                             
    (1) Under MUFTA, is a promissory note given in exchange for a loan legally 
      unenforceable because the borrower operated a Ponzi scheme and employed the 
      borrowed funds in the operation of its Ponzi scheme?               

    (2) Under MUFTA, does the repayment of interest that an entity is contractually 
      required  to  pay  under  the  terms  of  an  agreement  whereunder  funds  were 
      borrowed constitute the repayment of antecedent debt?              

    Because the Court has already rejected Defendants’ arguments with respect to both 
questions, there is no “unsettled” question of state law that the Court need certify to the 
Minnesota Supreme Court. However, for the sake of thoroughness, the Court will briefly 
review  the  law  of  certification,  and  will  explain  why,  prior  ruling  notwithstanding, 
certification is still unnecessary here.                                  

    1.  The Law                                                          
    The Minnesota Supreme Court “may answer a question of law certified to it by a” 
federal District Court like this one, “if the answer may be determinative of an issue in 
pending litigation in the certifying court and there is no controlling appellate decision, 
constitutional provision, or statute of this state.” 
Minn. Stat. § 480.065
, subd. 3 (emphasis 
added). This procedure exists to permit “certification of novel or unsettled questions of 

state law for authoritative answers by a State’s highest court,” and thereby “save” the 
certifying federal court “time, energy, and resources,” as well as allow it to “help build a 
cooperative judicial federalism.” Arizonians for Official English v. Arizona, 
520 U.S. 43, 77
 (1997) (cleaned up). However, the decision to certify a question of state law rests in 
“the sound discretion of the district court,” Allstate Ins. Co. v. Steele, 
74 F.3d 878, 881
 (8th 

Cir. 1996), and is “never obligatory, even when state law is in doubt,” U.S. Bank Nat’l 
Assn. v. PHL Variable Ins. Co., No. 12-cv-877 (JRT/TNL), 
2015 WL 6549595
, at *1 (D. 
Minn. Oct. 27, 2015) (citing Lehman Bros. v. Schein, 
416 U.S. 386, 390-91
 (1974)). In 
fact, less than a month ago, the Eighth Circuit denied a motion to certify a question of law 
to the Arkansas Supreme Court, and, in so doing, reaffirmed the longstanding principle 

that,  “[a]bsent  a  close  question  and  lack  of  state  sources  enabling  a  nonconjectural 
determination, a federal court should not avoid its responsibility to determine all issues 
before it.” Smith v. SEECO, Inc., 
922 F.3d 406, 412
 (8th Cir. 2019) (emphasis added) 
(quoting Shakopee Mdewakanton Sioux Cmty. v. City of Prior Lake, Minn., 
771 F.2d 1153
, 
1157 n.2 (8th Cir. 1985)). In other words, “[t]he most important consideration guiding the 
exercise of [the] discretion [of whether to certify a question of state law to a state Supreme 

Court] is whether the reviewing court finds itself genuinely uncertain about a question of 
state law.” Johnson v. John Deere Co., 
935 F.2d 151, 153
 (8th Cir. 1991) (emphasis 
added) (quoting Tidler v. Eli Lilly & Co., 
851 F.2d 418, 426
 (D.C. Cir. 1988)); accord Sari 
v. Wells Fargo Bank, N.A., 587 Fed. App’x 342, 343 (8th Cir. 2014) (“We deny [plaintiff’s] 
motion for certification because we are not uncertain about the question of state law he 
raises.”).                                                                

    2.  Analysis                                                         
    The Court finds certification unnecessary here, for three primary reasons. First, and 
most importantly, the Court is not “genuinely uncertain” about its interpretation of Finn, 
as set forth in its Boosalis Order and now again in this Order. Johnson, 
935 F.2d at 153
. 
Indeed, the Court finds that its interpretation of Finn largely accords with that of Judge 

Kishel, who is the only other jurist to have written at length about the legal implications of 
Finn. (See, e.g., supra at 40-41.)                                        
    Next, although the Court acknowledged above that other cases may present “closer 
calls” as to the application of Finn (id. at 45-46), the Court in no way believes that the 
legal portion of this Order constitutes a “conjectural” interpretation of Finn in particular, 

or of Minnesota state law in general. Smith, 
922 F.3d at 412
. Indeed, the fact that a recent 
Minnesota Supreme Court decision even speaks to the relevant legal issues in and of itself 
distinguishes this case from other instances where this Court has been confronted by a truly 
“novel” or “unsettled” question of state law. See, e.g., Friedlander v. Edwards Lifesciences, 
LLC, No. 16-cv-1747 (SRN/KMM), 
2016 WL 7007489
, at *5 (D. Minn. Nov. 29, 2016), 
cert.  granted,  
900 N.W.2d 162
  (Minn.  2017)  (certifying  question  regarding  the 

interpretation of the Minnesota Whistleblower Act to the  Minnesota Supreme Court, 
because there was no “controlling precedent” that interpreted the at-issue provision of the 
Act in light of a recent legislative amendment, and because “[n]either the text of the 
amending act nor the legislative history behind it” provided a clear answer to the relevant 
question).                                                                
    Finally, to the extent the Court erred in its analysis, the Eighth Circuit provides a 

forum by which to remedy that error. (Cf. supra at 22-23 (discussing the Boosalis appeal).)  
    Defendants make two additional arguments to the contrary, neither of which the 
Court finds availing. First, Defendants suggest that, because the Fifth Circuit Court of 
Appeals once certified an analogous legal question involving the interpretation of Texas’s 
fraudulent transfer act, the Court should do likewise here. See Janvey v. Golf Channel, 
780 F.3d 641
 (5th Cir. 2015), cert. granted, 
487 S.W.3d 560
 (Tex. 2016); see also supra n.20 
(briefly discussing this case’s facts). However, as the Trustee correctly notes, the Fifth 
Circuit only certified that legal question because there was express disagreement between 
the District Court and the Fifth Circuit panel, “none of whom had the benefit of a Texas 
Supreme Court case defining reasonably equivalent value.” (Pl.’s Opp. Br. at 16.) Here, by 

contrast, not only does this Court have the benefit of Finn, but there is also no express 
disagreement among members of the District or the Eighth Circuit (or even the state courts, 
for that matter) as to the relevant legal questions.22                    

    Second, Defendants also contend that, because the legal questions addressed by this 
Order will “likely reoccur” in some of the other pending “Petters claw back” cases, and 
will prove “dispositive” in those cases, certification is particularly appropriate. (See Defs.’ 
Summ. J. Br. at 23-24 (citing “more than twenty” pending cases).) As an initial matter, and 
as the Court noted above, there are only a handful of “Petters claw back” cases actually 
pending in the District. (See supra n.12.) Moreover, to the extent Defendants are correct 

about the number of cases, the Court finds that this number must be tempered by the 
Trustee’s  assertion  that  several  of  these  matters  “are  subject  to  active  settlement 
negotiations,” and involve different kinds of “non-lender” defendants. (See Pl.’s Opp. Br. 
at 16-17.) Finally, in any event, there is no need to even consider the “dispositive” effect a 
Minnesota Supreme Court ruling may have on future cases because the undersigned lacks 

“genuine uncertainty” about its legal reasoning here. Johnson v. John Deere Co., 
935 F.2d 22
   Although Defendants repeatedly imply that this Court’s decision and the Judge 
Kishel “effect of Finn” decision are at odds (see, e.g., Defs.’ Reply Br. at 12), that is not 
the case. True, Judge Kishel declined “to reach the theory of unenforceability as a matter 
of public policy” (which the Court relied on above), on grounds that “unenforceability” 
could be determined solely by reference to law holding that contracts “fraudulently 
induced” are “voidable.” See In re Petters Co., Inc., 
550 B.R. at 479
 n.32 and 
accompanying text. However, a fair reading of Judge Kishel’s decision makes plain that 
he was not “rejecting” the “public policy” theory adopted here and in Boosalis; indeed, as 
noted above, in conducting his analysis, Judge Kishel explicitly relied on the same pre-
Finn federal bankruptcy case law that the Court relied on here. (See supra at 40-41.)  
    What’s more, the Court finds that any differences between its analysis and Judge 
Kishel’s analysis are largely semantic, and that, at root, the decisions reach virtually 
identical conclusions regarding how best to interpret Finn in the context of a Ponzi 
scheme like the one at bar.                                               
at 153 (“The most important consideration guiding the exercise of [the] discretion [of 
whether to certify a question of state law to a state Supreme Court] is whether the reviewing 

court finds itself genuinely uncertain about a question of state law.”). Indeed, to the extent 
this decision has any “dispositive” impact on the other pending “Petters claw back” cases 
before this District, that is solely because the Court’s colleagues found this Order and the 
Boosalis Order persuasive. See Special Situations Fund III, L.P. v. Am. Dental Partners, 
Inc., 
775 F. Supp. 2d 227, 239
 (D. Mass. 2011) (“District courts are not bound to follow 
the decisions of other district courts.”); accord United Steel et al. v. Pension Benefit Guar. 

Corp., 
602 F. Supp. 2d 1115, 1119
 (D. Minn. 2009).                        
    For these reasons, the Court denies Defendants’ motion to certify questions of law 
to the Minnesota Supreme Court.                                           
 D. Remaining Issues                                                     
    The Court will conclude by addressing a few remaining, ancillary disputes between 

the parties.                                                              
    First, the parties dispute various issues with respect to the Trustee’s “constructive 
fraud” claim, such as the appropriate statute of limitations. (See, e.g., Defs.’ Summ. J. Br. 
at 17; Pl.’s Opp. Br. at 18-23.) However, because the Court finds for the Trustee on its 
“actual fraud” claim, and because the relief sought under that theory is identical to the relief 

sought under its “constructive fraud” claim, the Court need not resolve these issues. 
(Accord Mar. 8, 2019 Hr’g Tr. at 4 (Trustee’s counsel: emphasizing that the damages between 
the “actual fraud” claim and the “constructive fraud” claim are “duplicative”).)  
    Second, the parties also dispute whether the Trustee has sufficiently set forth a case 
of “personal liability” against Kanios (as opposed to liability solely against her 401(k) 

retirement  fund).  Defendants  contend  that,  under  federal  law,  a  lawsuit  against  an 
“employee benefit plan” (like a 401(k)) must separately “establish” “personal liability” 
with respect to a plan’s beneficiary, and that the Trustee failed to do so here. (See Defs.’ 
Opp. Br. at 18-19 (citing 
29 U.S.C. § 1132
(d)(1)).) Defendants do not cite any factual 
evidence in support of this contention. In response, the Trustee observes that Kanios 
“admits she received promissory notes from PCI and decided herself to invest in PCI 

through her pension plan,” and is therefore “indisputably the beneficiary of the notes 
between PCI and [her 401(k) plans].” (Pl.’s Reply Br. at 11.) The Court agrees with the 
Trustee. The deposition transcripts of both Kanios and Papadimos, as well as the other 
record evidence, make clear that Kanios is the intended beneficiary of the at-issue 401(k) 
retirement fund (aptly titled “the Chris M. Kanios 401(k) Savings Plan”), and that PCI’s 

interest payments were meant to (and, in fact, did) benefit Kanios directly, that is, by 
increasing the size of her retirement fund. Based on this evidence, and in the absence of 
any specific contention by Defendants to the contrary, the Court finds that the Trustee has 
sufficiently proven “personal liability” on Kanios’s behalf. Accord In re McCook Metals, 
LLC, 
319 B.R. 570, 590-92
 (Bankr. N.D. Ill. 2005) (noting that, in deciding whether who 

the “beneficiary” to a pre-bankruptcy “transfer” is, courts should consider if “the transferor 
. . . intended to confer a benefit on that person,” if the transferee “actually received a 
benefit,” and if the benefit was “quantifiable”).                         
    Finally, the parties dispute what amount of prejudgment interest (if any) the Court 
should award the Trustee. The Trustee argues that the Court should simply adhere to its 

analysis from Boosalis, and apply Minnesota’s statutory 10% per annum prejudgment 
interest rate from September 10, 2010 (when the Trustee commenced this lawsuit against 
Defendants) to the date of final judgment. (See Pl.’s Summ. J. Br. at 30-31 (citing Kelley 
v. Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6433161
 (D. Minn. Dec. 7, 2018) and Boosalis Doc. Nos. 117, 124).) 
For their part, Defendants again argue that the Court should re-consider its Boosalis 
decision (without citing any new case law or defendant-specific evidence), and should 

instead either (a) deny prejudgment interest all together, (b) grant prejudgment interest at 
the (far lower) federal interest rate, from a later date of the litigation (such as October 31, 
2017, the date Martens issued his final expert report) to the date of final judgment, or, at 
worst, (c) grant prejudgment at the federal interest rate from September 10, 2010 to the 
date of final judgment. (See Defs.’ Opp. Br. at 19-22.) In making this argument, Defendants 

rely heavily on equitable considerations, namely, that “this adversary proceeding [was] part 
of  a  large,  extraordinarily  complex  bankruptcy  proceeding,”  involving  “questions  of 
unsettled, and shifting, law,” and that it was therefore “reasonable for Defendants to decline 
payment and approach the Court to adjudicate the rights of the parties.” (Id.)  
    For the reasons already explained in the Boosalis Order, Minnesota law, not federal 

law, provides the prejudgment interest rate for this action. See Kelley v. Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6433161
, at *3-4 (holding that, because Minnesota law “supplied the substantive basis for 
the Trustee’s claims,” Minnesota law governs the application of prejudgment interest).  
    Moreover, as the Court also noted in its Boosalis Order, far from being an unusual 
occurrence, “[c]ourts regularly award prejudgment interest whenever damages lawfully 

due are withheld, unless there are exceptional circumstances to justify the refusal,” so as 
to both “compensate prevailing parties for the true costs of money damages incurred, and 
. . . promote settlement and deter attempts to benefit unfairly from the inherent delays of 
litigation.” Kelley v. Boosalis, 
2018 WL 6433161
, at *2, *4 (emphasis added) (cleaned up); 
accord In re RFC & ResCap Liquidating Trust Litig., No. 13-cv-3451 (SRN/HB), 
2019 WL 1237166
, at *8 (D. Minn. Mar. 18, 2019) (same, and also in the context of a years-

long,  highly  complex  litigation).  Defendants  do  not  point  to  any  “exceptional 
circumstances” here, such as bad faith on the part of the Trustee.        
    Finally, although Defendants argue that it is unfair to charge them prejudgment 
interest from “the commencement of this action” to the present, rather than from some later 
date  to  the  present,  the  Court  declines  to  arbitrarily  pick  a  “fair  start  date”  for  the 

application of prejudgment interest, as that would conflict with the statute’s mandatory 
language. See 
Minn. Stat. § 549.09
, subd. 1(b) (stating that prejudgment interest “shall be 
computed . . . from the time of the commencement of the action . . . or the time of a written 
notice of claim, whichever occurs first”) (emphasis added); see also Tate v. Scanlan Int’l, 
Inc., 
403 N.W.2d 666, 674
 (Minn. Ct. App. 1987) (reversing trial court for computing 

prejudgment interest at a post-commencement date, in an attempt to account for “delay 
result[ing] from [plaintiff’s] request for a trial date continuance,” and declaring that “the 
language of the statute is mandatory”). And, even if the Court could apply prejudgment 
interest from whatever date it deemed “fair,” the Court would simply stick with the date 
that this action commenced, again, for the reasons stated in its Boosalis Order(s). (See, e.g., 
Boosalis Doc. No. 127 at 4-5 (rejecting argument that an “award of prejudgment interest 

in this case” was “unfair because interest accumulated due to factors outside of [Boosalis’s] 
control,” such as “consolidation of discovery,” and instead observing that “awarding 
prejudgment interest here serves the purpose of compensating the prevailing party for the 
true costs of the money damages incurred,” and further noting that PCI’s creditors have 
been waiting “years” to receive any recovery on their lost principal investments).)  
 III.  ORDER                                                             

    Based on the foregoing, and all the files, records, and proceedings herein, IT IS 
HEREBY ORDERED that:                                                      
    1.   Plaintiff’s Motion for Summary Judgment [Doc. No. 108] is GRANTED; 

    2.   Defendants’ Motion for Summary Judgment, or in the Alternative, for an 
         Order Certifying Questions of Law to the Minnesota Supreme Court [Doc. 
         No. 102] is DENIED;                                             

    3.   Plaintiff  is  accordingly  entitled  to  recover  prejudgment  interest  from 
         Defendant Papadimos on the amount of $3,126,524.37, and from Defendant 
         Kanios on the amount of $572,500.22, at the rate of 10% per annum from 
         September 10, 2010 until final judgment is entered; and         

    4.   Within seven days of this Order, the parties shall jointly file a calculation of 
         the appropriate award of prejudgment interest pursuant to this Order so that 
         the Court can enter final judgment in this matter.              

    5.   The pending motions in limine [Doc. Nos. 48, 53, 60, 61, 62, 63, 67, 70, 73, 
         and 76] are DENIED as moot.                                     


Dated:  May 20, 2019                    s/Susan Richard Nelson              
                                       SUSAN RICHARD NELSON              
                                       United States District Judge      

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