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United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit United States Court of Appeals Fifth Circuit ____________ FILED December 31, 2024 No. 22-51019 Lyle W. Cayce ____________ Clerk

United States of America,

Plaintiff—Appellant,

versus

Litsson Antonio Perez-Gallan,

Defendant—Appellee. ______________________________

Appeal from the United States District Court for the Western District of Texas USDC No. 4:22-CR-427-1 ______________________________

ON REMAND FROM THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT

Before Smith, Stewart, and Duncan, Circuit Judges. Jerry E. Smith, Circuit Judge:

This is Litsson Perez-Gallan’s facial challenge to

(g)- (8)(C)(ii),1 which prohibits gun possession by persons subject to domestic-

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violence restraining orders. The district court granted Perez-Gallan’s mo- tion to dismiss the indictment, and a panel summarily affirmed. At that time, this court was bound by United States v. Rahimi,

(5th Cir. 2023) (“Rahimi 2023”), which held that § 922(g)(8) in its entirety is facially unconstitutional. The Supreme Court reversed, holding that § 922(g)(8)- (C)(i) is not facially invalid; the Court did not reach the constitutionality of (C)(ii). United States v. Rahimi,

(2024) (“Rahimi 2024”). The Court then granted certiorari in this case, vacated, and remanded for reconsideration in light of Rahimi 2024. United States v. Perez-Gallan,

, 2708 (2024). The dispute is whether, post-Rahimi 2024, § 922(g)(8)(C)(ii) facially violates the Second Amendment. It does not. Because there are at least some circumstances in which the government could constitutionally apply (C)(ii) to a defendant’s conduct, we reverse and hold that (C)(ii) is not facially unconstitutional. We reverse and remand for the district court, in the first instance, to address Perez-Gallan’s as-applied challenge to (C)(ii).

I. A. In June 2022, Perez-Gallan was driving an eighteen-wheeler at the Mexico-United States border in Presidio, Texas, when he entered a border patrol checkpoint and was directed to a secondary inspection area by border agents, who then asked him whether he was armed. After Perez-Gallan said yes and consented to a search, the agents found a pistol in his backpack. When the agents performed a weapons check, they discovered that the gun had been reported stolen and arrested Perez-Gallan on suspicion of posses- sion of a stolen firearm. After Miranda rights advisement and waiver, Perez- Gallan claimed that he did not know the gun was stolen because a friend had given it to him. He also said that he carried the gun with him on drives for

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self-protection. The agents also found a Kentucky state court order in Perez-Gallan’s wallet (“Court Order”), which outlined his conditions of release stemming from a May 2022 arrest for assault.2 The Court Order resulted from a May 2022 incident with his domestic partner, with whom Perez-Gallan shares a child. His partner stated that Perez-Gallan had struck her in the face while she was holding their baby, and, after she put the baby down, he dragged her to the bathroom, struck her in the face again, and began hitting her in the ribs. Perez-Gallan was charged with assault in the fourth degree.3 The Kentucky state district court released Perez on bond but issued an order imposing conditions of release. That Court Order, which bore the signatures of the issuing judge and Perez-Gallan, expressly prohibited him from harassing, contacting, and “threatening to commit or committing acts of domestic violence or abuse against the alleged victim.” It also forbade him from possessing a gun. Perez-Gallan’s arrest in Texas occurred one month after the issuance of the Court Order.

B. Believing that the Court Order met the requirements of a protective

_____________________ 2 The government later discovered a separate restraining order against Perez- Gallan from a Kentucky family court (“Restraining Order”). That resulted from a separate proceeding in which a state family court had found that Perez-Gallan posed “an immediate and present . . . danger of domestic violence and abuse” and issued an order “restrain[ing him] from committing further acts of abuse or threats of abuse, stalking or sexual assault.” As noted infra part I.B, because there is no evidence that Perez-Gallan had notice of that proceeding, the Restraining Order is not relevant here. See § 922(g)(8)(A) (requiring actual notice). 3 Perez-Gallan pleaded guilty to an amended-downward charge of disorderly con- duct, second degree, in the Jefferson District Court.

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order under § 922(g)(8), a grand jury indicted him under that statute.4 Perez- Gallan moved to dismiss the indictment. After multiple continuances and supplemental briefing to address the effect of New York State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n, Inc. v. Bruen,

(2022), the district court dismissed in a 32-page memorandum opinion.5 The district court first addressed whether § 922(g)(8) covers Perez- Gallan’s alleged conduct at all. 640 F. Supp. 3d at 699–700. For (g)(8) to apply, the underlying court order (A) must have been “issued after a hearing of which such person received actual notice, and at which such person had an opportunity to participate”; (B) must restrain “such person from haras- sing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of such person or child of such intimate partner or person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child; and (C) . . . (ii) by its terms explicitly prohibit[] the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury.”6 The district court noted that because the government acknowledged that it had no proof that Perez-Gallan had actual notice, the opportunity to participate, or was even

_____________________ 4 The indictment alleged that Perez-Gallan, “knowing he was subject to a court order that restrains such person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of such person . . . and by its terms explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner,” knowingly possessed a firearm that “had been shipped and transported in interstate commerce and foreign commerce.” 5 United States v. Perez-Gallan,

(W.D. Tex. 2022), aff’d, No. 22-51019,

(5th Cir. Aug. 2, 2023) (per curiam) (unpublished), cert. granted, judgment vacated,

(2024). 6 Section 922(g)(8)(C)(i) covers court orders that include “a finding that such person represents a credible threat to the physical safety of such intimate partner or child.” This provision is not applicable here because the Court Order does not include an explicit credible threat determination.

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present when the Restraining Order was issued, only the Court Order is relevant.

. The district court then noted that the Court Order prohibited him from “threatening to commit or committing acts of domestic violence or abuse against the alleged victim or other family or household member.”

(quoting the Court Order). Applying Fifth Circuit precedent holding that “if the commonly understood definitions of terms in the protective order include acts involving ‘physical force,’ the protective order is sufficient to support a conviction under § 922(g)(8),” United States v. McGinnis,

(5th Cir. 2020), the district court found that Perez-Gallan’s Court Order sat- isfied § 922(g)(8)’s required elements, Perez-Gallan, 640 F. Supp. 3d at 700. But while the district court found that the Court Order satisfied § 922(g)(8)’s statutory requirements, the court ruled that (g)(8) violates the Second Amendment. Specifically, the court found that because “the histori- cal record does not contain evidence sufficient to support the federal gov- ernment’s disarmament of domestic abusers, . . . . § 922(g)(8) does not overcome Bruen’s presumption that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s possession of a firearm.” Id. at 713. The court thus held (g)(8) facially unconstitutional and did not reach Perez-Gallan’s as-applied chal- lenge. See id. at 713 n.119. The government appealed. While the appeal was pending, and before the government had submitted its brief, a panel of this court decided Rahimi 2023—which, like the district court order, also held that (g)(8) facially vio- lates the Second Amendment.

. The government conceded that Rahimi 2023 was outcome-determinative for its appeal but filed a brief to preserve its arguments for further review. A panel of this court summarily affirmed. Perez-Gallan,

, at *1. Eleven months later, the Supreme Court reversed Rahimi

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, see Rahimi 2024,

, then granted certiorari, vacated, and remanded. Perez-Gallan, 144 S. Ct. at 2708. The Government and Perez- Gallan have since submitted additional letter briefs addressing the effect of Rahimi 2024. As with all constitutional questions, we consider the issue de novo. United States v. Perez-Macias,

(5th Cir. 2003).

II. Perez-Gallan contends that Rahimi 2023 controls this case under the rule of orderliness. We consider and reject that preliminary argument before deciding the merits of Perez-Gallan’s facial challenge. See United States v. Diaz,

(5th Cir. 2024).

A. Last term, the Supreme Court held that § 922(g)(8)(C)(i) is not faci- ally unconstitutional, reversing this court’s Rahimi 2023 decision. See Rahimi 2024,

. But the decision “start[ed] and stop[ped] with Sec- tion 922(g)(8)(C)(i)” and expressly did not “decide whether regulation under Section 922(g)(8)(C)(ii) is also permissible.”

. So our first question is whether, under Rahimi 2023, (C)(ii) is facially invalid.7 It is “well-settled” in the Fifth Circuit that, “even if a panel’s inter- pretation of the law appears flawed,” “one panel of our court may not over- turn another panel’s decision, absent an intervening change in the law, such

_____________________ 7 There is also the threshold question whether the rule of orderliness applies to any portion of Rahimi 2023 at all, given that the Supreme Court reversed that decision. The rule of orderliness does apply. See Data Mktg. P’ship, LP v. United States Dep’t of Lab.,

, 856 n.2 (5th Cir. 2022). The rule of orderliness requires us to follow even a reversed panel opinion except for those portions of it that were reversed. Id.; see also Cent. Pines Land Co. v. United States,

, 893 n.57 (5th Cir. 2001) (concluding that circuit opinions in which the judgment was reversed on some but not all grounds are still precedential with respect to the portions not reversed).

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as by a statutory amendment, or the Supreme Court, or our en banc court.” Jacobs v. Nat’l Drug Intel. Ctr.,

(5th Cir. 2008) (cleaned up). “This rule is strict and rigidly applied.” In re Bonvillian Marine Serv., Inc.,

(5th Cir. 2021). For a Supreme Court decision to change our circuit’s law, “neither a mere hint of how the Supreme Court might rule in the future nor a decision that is merely illuminating with respect to the case before us will permit a subsequent panel to depart from circuit precedent.”8 The intervening deci- sion or decisions “must unequivocally overrule prior precedent.” Bonvillian,

(internal quotations and citations omitted). But the Court need not expressly overrule our precedent for a panel opinion to lose its precedential force. When an intervening Supreme Court decision represents a sufficiently clear break from this circuit’s precedent, “a latter panel must simply determine that a former panel’s decision has fallen unequivocally out of step with some intervening change in the law.”

“One situation in which this may naturally occur is where an intervening Supreme Court decision fundamentally changes the focus of the relevant analysis.”

(internal quotation marks and alterations omitted).

Rahimi 2023 itself provides an example. There, the panel held that Bruen “clearly ‘fundamentally changed’ our analysis of laws that implicate the Second Amendment, rendering our prior precedent” employing the pre- Bruen methodology “obsolete.” Rahimi 2023, 61 F.4th at 450–51 (quoting Bonvillian,

) (cleaned up). We recently reached a similar con-

_____________________ 8 Martinelli v. Hearst Newspapers, L.L.C.,

(5th Cir. 2023), cert. denied,

(2024) (cleaned up) (citing United States v. Alcantar,

(5th Cir. 2013), and Tech. Automation Servs. Corp. v. Liberty Surplus Ins. Corp.,

(5th Cir. 2012)).

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clusion in Diaz, holding that because Rahimi 2024 employed an analysis fundamentally different from that employed in an older case, the “law of orderliness mandates that we abandon that prior precedent.”

. In short, if we cannot adhere to our former precedent without dis- regarding intervening Supreme Court precedent, our circuit’s precedent has been implicitly overruled.9

B. Perez-Gallan maintains that because Rahimi 2023 found that § 922- (g)(8) is facially unconstitutional, and because Rahimi 2024 reverses only on the ground that § 922(g)(8)(C)(i) is facially constitutional, Rahimi 2023’s holding that (g)(8) is facially void is still good law in this circuit as to (C)(ii). The government disagrees, asserting that because the Supreme Court rejects the analysis that the panel relied on in analyzing both (C)(i) and (ii), even the (C)(ii) analysis in Rahimi 2023 is “unequivocally out of step” with Rahimi 2024 and thus implicitly was overturned. Bonvillian,

. The government has the better of this dispute. To see why, it helps first to understand the statute’s text and structure. A prosecution under § 922(g)(8) may proceed only if three criteria are met. See Rahimi 2024,

. First, the defendant must have received actual notice and an opportunity to be heard before the order was entered. § 922(g)(8)(A). Second, the order must prohibit the defendant from either “harassing, stalk- ing, or threatening” his “intimate partner” or his or his partner’s child, or “engaging in other conduct that would place [the] partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury” to the partner or child. § 922(g)(8)(B).10 Third, under _____________________ 9 See Stokes v. Sw. Airlines,

(5th Cir. 2018) (“Such a change occurs, for example, when the Supreme Court disavows the mode of analysis on which our precedent relied.”). 10 A defendant’s “intimate partner[s]” include his spouse or any former spouse,

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§ 922(g)(8)(C), the order must either (i) contain a finding that the defendant “represents a credible threat to the physical safety” of his intimate partner or the child, § 922(g)(8)(C)(i), or (ii) “by its terms explicitly prohibit[] the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force” against those indi- viduals, § 922(g)(8)(C)(ii). The challenge here involves (8)(C)(ii). Unlike Rahimi’s court order, Perez-Gallan’s Court Order did not contain an express finding that he is dan- gerous, but it did prohibit the use or threatened use of force against his domestic partner.11 The question then is whether Rahimi 2024, despite expressly ruling on only (C)(i)’s facial validity, is nevertheless a sufficiently unequivocal overruling of Rahimi 2023 such that Rahimi 2023’s holding as to (C)(ii)’s facial invalidity no longer binds us. In light of the “two errors” the Supreme Court identified in the panel’s decision, see Rahimi 2024,

, we hold that the entirety of Rahimi 2023’s (g)(8) analysis has been “unequivocally overrule[d],” Bonvillian,

(cleaned up). First, and most fundamentally, Rahimi 2024 holds that Rahimi 2023 misread Bruen “to require a ‘historical twin’ rather than a ‘historical ana- logue.’”

(quoting Bruen,

). The panel’s decision declaring § 922(g)(8) unconstitutional flowed from its analysis of the three historical analogues to (g)(8) proffered by the government: “(1) English and American laws (and sundry unadopted proposals to modify the Second Amendment) providing for disarmament of ‘dangerous’ people, (2) English and American

_____________________ the parent of his child, and anyone with whom he cohabitates or has cohabitated.

(a)(32). 11 The first two § 922(g)(8) requirements─(8)(A) and (B)─were also met. See ROA.172–73 (detailing Perez-Gallan’s notice of and participation in the state court pro- ceedings); ROA.126 (prohibiting the defendant from, inter alia, “harassing” his domestic partner).

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‘going armed’ laws, and (3) colonial and early state surety laws.” Rahimi 2023,

. The panel then discussed why, in its view, each of those historical regulations was not a “relevantly similar” precursor to (g)(8). The crux of the panel’s decision was that the “Government’s prof- fered analogues falter under one or both of the metrics articulated in Bruen as the baseline for measuring ‘relevantly similar’ analogues: ‘how and why the regulations burden a law-abiding citizen’s right to armed self-defense.’”

at 460 (quoting Bruen,

). Therefore, the panel held that “§ 922(g)(8) falls outside the class of firearm regulations countenanced by the Second Amendment.” Id. at 460–61. Rahimi 2024 rejects that analysis. Rahimi 2023 looked to historical “going armed” and surety laws and concluded that they were “not viable historical analogues for § 922(g)(8).”

. But Rahimi 2024 holds that, “[t]aken together, the surety and going armed laws confirm what com- mon sense suggests: When an individual poses a clear threat of physical vio- lence to another, the threatening individual may be disarmed.”

. Rahimi 2024 is thus more than “merely illuminating with respect to the case before [the court].” Martinelli,

(citation omitted). It is an unequivocal overruling of the historical analysis employed in Rahimi 2023, as the Rahimi 2023 panel itself explained on remand. See United States v. Rahimi,

, 333 n.1 (5th Cir. 2024). There, the panel noted that Rahimi 2024 “modified Bruen in at least one relevant respect”—namely, that whereas Bruen suggested that surety laws provided no historical analogue for banning a person from having a gun, Rahimi 2024 “announced that surety laws ‘confirm’ that covered individuals ‘may be disarmed.’”

(quoting Rahimi 2024,

). Perez-Gallan urges us to read Rahimi 2024 as only a narrow rebuke of Rahimi 2023, given the Supreme Court’s assertion that its opinion addresses only § 922(g)(8)(C)(i). As the Court summarizes, “we conclude only this:

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An individual found by a court to pose a credible threat to the physical safety of another may be temporarily disarmed consistent with the Second Amend- ment.” Rahimi 2024,

(emphasis added). The “found by a court” language refers to (C)(i), not (ii), so the Supreme Court did not con- clude whether an individual subject only to an order which “by its terms explicitly prohibits” the use or attempted use of force is also facially consti- tutional. § 922(g)(8)(C)(ii). But Rahimi 2024’s concluding language cannot save Perez-Gallan’s theory from the rest of the Supreme Court’s opinion, especially given the second “error[]” the Court identifies in Rahimi 2023: the panel’s misapplica- tion of the Court’s “precedents governing facial challenges.” Rahimi 2024,

. For a facial challenge to succeed, a challenger must “estab- lish that no set of circumstances exists under which the Act would be valid.” United States v. Salerno,

(1987). But “[r]ather than con- sider the circumstances in which Section 922(g)(8) was most likely to be con- stitutional,” the Court writes, “the panel instead focused on hypothetical scenarios where Section 922(g)(8) might raise constitutional concerns.” Rahimi 2024,

(citing Rahimi 2023,

). These “two errors” demonstrate why no part of Rahimi 2023’s § 922(g)(8) analysis still controls, either under our rule of orderliness or otherwise. Rahimi 2024,

. Rahimi 2023 held that the govern- ment could never constitutionally apply (8)(C)(ii) because the panel believed that surety laws “did not impose a comparable burden on the right of armed self-defense . . . as § 922(g)(8).” Rahimi 2023,

(quotation marks and citation omitted). But the Supreme Court has since said that surety laws can satisfy Bruen’s “comparable burden” test. See Rahimi 2024, 602 U.S. at 698–99. So a central pillar of Rahimi 2023’s holding─that histor- ical surety laws can never justify applications of (g)(8)─no longer stands.

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This “fundamentally changes” the legal significance of going-armed and surety laws. Bonvillian,

(alteration omitted). Therefore, because a “subsequent Supreme Court opinion establishes a rule of law in- consistent with” the panel’s decision in Rahimi 2023, Bonvillian,

(citation omitted), “[t]he law of orderliness mandates that we abandon that prior precedent,” Diaz,

.12

III. Having decided that we are not bound by Rahimi 2023, we consider whether § 922(g)(8)(C)(ii) facially violates the Second Amendment.13

A. A facial challenge “is the ‘most difficult challenge to mount success- fully,’ because it requires a defendant to ‘establish that no set of circum- stances exists under which the Act would be valid.’ That means that to pre-

_____________________ 12 The panel’s analysis did not clearly delineate § 922(g)(8)(C)(i) from (ii), instead holding that the entirety of (g)(8) is void. This further weighs against Perez-Gallan’s posi- tion that Rahimi 2023 still binds this court. If Rahimi 2023 discussed why (C)(ii) specifically failed under Bruen, it is possible that that decision could have survived as an independent holding left unscathed by Rahimi 2024. But because Rahimi 2023 treats both (C)(i) and (ii) as essentially the same provision, we hold that the entirety of the panel’s (g)(8) analysis in Rahimi 2023 was overruled by Rahimi 2024. See Bonvillian,

(“Whether an intervening Supreme Court decision ‘merely illuminates’ or ‘unequivocally overrules’ is a judgment call—there is no hard-and-fast requirement, for instance, that a Supreme Court decision explicitly overrule the circuit precedent at issue, or specifically address the precise question of law at issue.”). 13 Our analysis focuses solely on this narrow provision, and our holding does not decide the validity of other provisions of § 922. See Richard H. Fallon, Jr., Facts and Fiction About Facial Challenges,

, 925 (2011) (“[T]he Supreme Court rou- tinely speaks of facial attacks on particular provisions or sections of legislative acts, even when the success of those attacks could leave other aspects of multipart enactments intact.”) (noting Citizens United v. Fed. Election Comm’n,

, 329–36 (2010), and Planned Parenthood of Se. Pa. v. Casey,

(1992) (overruled on other grounds)).

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vail, the government need only demonstrate that Section 922(g)(8) is consti- tutional in some of its applications.” Rahimi 2024,

(quoting Salerno,

). Where “legislation and the Constitution brush up against each other, our task is to seek harmony, not to manufacture conflict.” United States v. Hansen,

(2023). To demonstrate that § 922(g)(8)(C)(ii) is facially constitutional—i.e., that it is permissible under the Second Amendment—the government must show that the provision “is consistent with the principles that underpin our regulatory tradition.” Rahimi 2024,

(citing Bruen, 597 U.S. at 26–31). A court “must ascertain whether [(C)(ii)] is ‘relevantly similar’ to laws that our tradition is understood to permit, ‘apply[ing] faithfully the balance struck by the founding generation to modern circumstances.’”

(quoting Bruen,

). “Why and how” a given gun regulation burdens the right to keep and bear arms are the two key inquiries.

at 692 (citing Bruen,

). “Why” and “how” a regulation burdens an individual’s Second Amendment right are two separate questions. The “why” analysis instructs that “if laws at the Founding regulated firearm use to address particular problems, that will be a strong indicator that contemporary laws imposing similar restrictions for similar reasons fall within a permissible category” of firearms regulation.

The “how” analysis warns that “when a law regu- lates arms-bearing for a permissible reason . . . it may not be compatible with the right if it does so to an extent beyond what was done at the founding.”

Even “when a challenged regulation does not precisely match its histori- cal precursors, ‘it still may be analogous enough to pass constitutional mus- ter.’”

(quoting Bruen,

). “The law must comport with the principles underlying the Second Amendment, but it need not be a ‘dead ringer’ or a ‘historical twin.’”

(quoting Bruen,

).

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We know from Rahimi 2024 that (C)(i) is facially constitutional because, “[t]aken together,” the historical surety and going-armed laws invoked by the government “confirm what common sense suggests: When an individual poses a clear threat of physical violence to another, the threat- ening individual may be disarmed.”

. But significant to the Court’s reasoning is that (C)(i) “applies only once a court has found that the defendant ‘represents a credible threat to the physical safety’ of another.”

at 699 (quoting that provision). The question here is whether a prosecu- tion brought under (C)(ii), which does not expressly require a court’s finding a “credible threat,” could ever be compatible with the nation’s history of firearm regulation.

B. We are not the first court to consider this question post-Rahimi 2024. The Sixth Circuit recently resolved a similar facial challenge to (C)(ii) in the government’s favor, holding that the “historic and ‘common sense’ tradition that allows the disarmament of those who ‘pose[] a clear threat of physical violence to another’ with respect to 922(g)(8)(C)(i) applies with equal force to Section 922(g)(8)(C)(ii).”14 We agree with the Sixth Circuit. While applications of (C)(ii) might present closer calls than do applications of (C)(i), Perez-Gallan’s facial chal- lenge still fails because the provision is not inconsistent with the Second Amendment in all its applications. See Rahimi 2024,

; Salerno,

. Recall that under (C)(ii), an individual is barred from possessing fire- arms for as long as he is “subject to a court order that . . . by its terms expli- _____________________ 14 United States v. Combs, No. 23-5121,

, at *3 (6th Cir. Oct. 17, 2024) (unpublished) (quoting Rahimi,

).

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citly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury.”15 Recall further that under Rahimi 2024, “[w]hen an individual poses a clear threat of physical violence to another, the threatening individual may be disarmed.”

. Considered together, this means that if a court order necessarily implies that the defendant poses a clear threat of violence to another, he can be disarmed consistently with the Sec- ond Amendment (and, therefore, a facial challenge to (C)(ii) would fail). At least some court orders covered by (C)(ii) fit that bill. In United States v. Emerson, we evaluated a similar challenge to (C)(ii) by a defendant positing that the provision “should be construed to require that the particular predicate court order include an explicit finding that the person enjoined posed a credible threat of violence to his spouse or child.”

(5th Cir. 2001) (emphases added). In other words, Emerson averred that unless (C)(ii) requires the same explicit credible threat finding as (C)(i), it cannot satisfy the Second Amendment. Perez-Gallan advances essentially the same theory. But we find no fault in Emerson’s construction of (C)(ii), which ably demonstrates why prosecutions brought under that provision will often (perhaps even always) accord with the Second Amendment as ex- pounded by Rahimi 2024.16

_____________________ 15 Also, like (C)(i), (C)(ii) pertains only to court orders issued after providing a defendant with actual notice and an opportunity to participate in a hearing.

(g)(8)(A). 16 We invoke Emerson for its persuasive power, not because it is necessarily binding authority. We recognized in Emerson,

, that the Second Amendment guar- antees an individual right to possess a firearm but rejected Emerson’s constitutional chal- lenge because “the nexus between firearm possession” and “the threat of lawless vio- lence” sufficed to support the deprivation of Emerson’s Second Amendment right. That decision relied on pre-Bruen means-end scrutiny, so its Second Amendment holding no longer binds us under the rule of orderliness. See Diaz,

. But Emerson’s

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As discussed in Emerson, when Congress enacted § 922(g)(8), “Con- gress legislated against the background of the almost universal rule of Ameri- can law that for a temporary injunction to issue, there must be a likelihood that irreparable harm will occur.”

(cleaned up). Under estab- lished equitable principles, “a preliminary injunction will not be issued sim- ply to prevent the possibility of some remote future injury. A presently existing actual threat must be shown.”17 We thus concluded that when it enacted § 922(g)(8), Congress “proceeded on the assumption that the laws of the several states were such that court orders, issued after notice and hearing, should not embrace the prohibitions of paragraph (C)(ii) unless . . . evidence credited by the court reflected a real threat or danger of injury to the protected party by the party enjoined.” Emerson,

. This means that for at least some (and hopefully all) protective orders, the issuing court was satisfied that the subject posed an actual threat—even if the order did not include an explicit “finding that such person represents a credible threat.” § 922(g)(8)(C)(i). Further, and without deciding any question of state law, we observe that the procedures provided by Kentucky seem to accord with Emerson’s understanding of (g)(8). Consider a slightly modified version of the facts of _____________________ interpretation of § 922(g)(8)(C)(ii) did not hinge on “the ‘means-end scrutiny’ practice that the Supreme Court prohibited in Bruen,” so it is possible that “the Supreme Court’s decision in Bruen did not abrogate” that portion of Emerson. United States v. Medina-Cantu,

(5th Cir. 20024). Regardless, because we agree with Emerson’s statutory interpretation, we need not decide the precise extent of its continued vitality. 17 9 Wright, Miller & Kane, Fed. Prac. & Proc.: Civil 3d § 2948.1 (emphasis added). See also 42 Am. Jur. 2d, Injunctions, § 34 (“To be entitled to an injunction . . . the plaintiff must establish that he or she has sustained or is immediately in danger of sustaining some certain and direct injury as a result of the challenged conduct. An injunction will not issue unless there is an imminent threat of illegal action. In other words, the injury or threat of injury must be real and immediate, not conjectural or hypothetical.”) (footnotes omitted) (emphasis added).

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this case: A defendant’s battered domestic partner alleges that the defendant struck her repeatedly. The victim then seeks a restraining order under Ken- tucky Revised Statutes (“KRS”) § 403.740(1) (2024), which provides: “Following a hearing ordered under KRS 403.730, if a court finds by a pre- ponderance of the evidence that domestic violence and abuse has occurred and may again occur, the court may issue a domestic violence order . . . .” The state court, finding that the defendant has committed domestic violence and may do so again, then issues a domestic-violence order “for a period of time fixed by the court, not to exceed three (3) years.” KRS § 403.740(4). But the order does not expressly include a finding that the defendant posed “a credible threat to the physical safety” of the victim. § 922(g)(8)(C)(i). Instead, as here, the order says, “having made findings that the Defendant has been arrested for or charged with a crime specified in Chapters 508, 510, 403.740 or 403.750,” the court prohibits the defendant “from threatening to commit or committing acts of domestic violence or abuse against the alleged victim or other family or household member.” In such a hypothetical case, the government could not charge the defendant under (C)(i) because the court order itself did not include an expli- cit finding of dangerousness. So, as here, the government would need to resort to charging the defendant under (C)(ii). But given the state statutory prerequisites of this hypothetical order, which required a court to find by “a preponderance of the evidence that domestic violence and abuse has oc- curred and may again occur,” KRS § 403.740(1), this application of (C)(ii) would be no different from the application of (C)(i) that the Court deemed constitutional in Rahimi 2024. In both Rahimi 2024 and this hypothetical case, (g)(8) would apply “only once a court has found that the defendant rep- resents a credible threat to the physical safety of another” and, “like surety bonds of limited duration,” would only “prohibit[] firearm possession so long as the defendant ‘is’ subject to a restraining order.” Rahimi 2024, 602

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U.S. at 699 (quoting § 922(g)(8)) (cleaned up). Finally, the “penalty— another relevant aspect of the burden—[would] also fit[] within the regu- latory tradition” because, “if imprisonment was permissible to respond to the use of guns to threaten the physical safety of others, then the lesser restriction of temporary disarmament that Section 922(g)(8) imposes is also permissible.” Id. In short, this potential application of (C)(ii) “fits comfortably within” the regulatory tradition identified in Rahimi 2024,

. This dooms Perez-Gallan’s facial challenge. Because a statute needs just one per- missible application to survive a facial challenge, see

, the district court’s ruling deeming (C)(ii) facially unconstitutional is legal error.18

C. Finally, we acknowledge that some potential applications of § 922(g)- (8)(C)(ii) appear problematic, and we do not hold that the statute is (or even likely to be) constitutional in all its applications. As one judge noted in Rahimi 2023, so-called “mutual” protective orders pose a real concern. See 61 F.4th at 466–67 (Ho, J., concurring). Because in “any domestic violence dispute, a judge may see no downside in forbidding both parties from harming one another,” domestic-violence proceedings “have often led to the issuance of unmerited mutual restraining orders, namely in situations where one party is the abuser and the other party is a victim.” Id. at 466 (Ho, J., concurring) (quoting Jacquie Andreano, The Disproportionate Effect of Mutual Restraining Orders on Same-Sex Domestic Violence Victims,

, 1054 (2020)) (emphasis removed). If these court orders also meet the terms of _____________________ 18 This discussion should not be interpreted to prejudge any as-applied challenge that Perez-Gallan might pursue. It is possible that the foregoing analysis supporting (C)(ii)’s facial validity will not accord with the precise circumstances and state statutory provisions giving rise to Perez-Gallan’s Court Order.

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§§ 922(g)(8)(A) and (B), an abused woman could lose her right to possess a gun just because her violent domestic partner is awarded a mutual protective order against her, even if there are no indications that the women herself is dangerous. The resourceful concurrence thus concluded that because in “any domestic violence dispute, a judge may see no downside in forbidding both parties from harming one another,” “§ 922(g)(8) effectively disarms victims of domestic violence.” Id. at 466 (Ho, J., concurring). This is indeed “profoundly perverse,” id., but when considering a facial challenge, a court’s “task is to seek harmony, not to manufacture con- flict.” Rahimi 2024,

(quoting Hansen,

).19 The fact that (C)(ii) may have some perverse and possibly unconstitutional appli- cations does not mean that all its possible applications violate the Second Amendment. The district court’s failure to grapple with this point highlights its well-intended error.20 As in Rahimi 2023, “[r]ather than consider the cir- cumstances in which Section 922(g)(8) was most likely to be constitutional, the [district court] instead focused on hypothetical scenarios where Section 922(g)(8) might raise constitutional concerns.” Rahimi 2024,

. That error, if repeated on appeal, would leave this “panel slaying a straw man.”

* * * * * Because

(g)(8)(C)(ii) is not unconstitutional in all its applications, Perez-Gallan’s facial challenge fails. The judgment dismissing the indictment is REVERSED and REMANDED for the district court to _____________________ 19 See also Rahimi 2024,

n.2 (“Many of the potential faults that the Fifth Circuit identifies in Section 922(g)(8) appear to sound in due process rather than the Second Amendment.”). 20 See Perez-Gallan, 640 F. Supp. 3d at 714 (detailing the outlier experience of David Letterman).

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consider Perez-Gallan’s as-applied challenge in the first instance. We ex- press no view as to which matters the court may address and decide on remand, and we give no hint as to what decisions it should make.

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